Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Club Passim

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 00:24, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Club Passim

Non notable Interestingstuffadder 17:08, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Delete: This seems to be an article for a non-notable music club in Cambridge, MA. Although some moderately well known artists have performed at this place during its history, it is unclear what sets this club apart from any of the other thousands of small music clubs throughout the country... Did some particuarly important act get its start here? Was there a riot here at some point? Is this club of general cultural significance for some reason? Absent some notable incident(s) along these lines, this seems like just another non notable local establishment where live music is performed and is thus unencylopedic...'Keep: Change my vote. Additions to the article made since I nominated it for deltion have convinced me that this is notable. In this case, the deletion process seems to have worked perfectly. Interestingstuffadder 20:26, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. --Terence Ong 17:23, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, it's notable within the genre of folk music and on Wikipedia we don't delete stub articles about notable subjects, we give them a chance to be expanded. (Did you AFD this article just because you didn't like that I AFDed your article?) Catamorphism 18:49, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment: Please assume good faith... I did happen to notice this on your userpage during our exchange, but I legitimitely didn't think it met notability guidelines. But to compare this to our fuck truck debate, it is unclear how a local music club is more notable than a local college shuttle bus. And how is this "notable within the genre of folk music"? Is every one of the many clubs where reasonably well known folk groups have played "notable within the genre of folk music"? I see nothing that seperates this club from the probably thousands of other clubs across the country and around the world where bands of this level of notability have performed. These are small venues and there are many of them. Absent some specific reason for notability, this club is insufficiently notable to merit a wikipedia article. Interestingstuffadder 19:16, 14 March 2006 (UTC)Interestingstuffadder 20:27, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

Comment: The Boston folk scene is central to the genre of contemporary folk in the US, and Club Passim is the most important folk club in the Boston area. I've added some references to the article that document this. Catamorphism 19:17, 14 March 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. I'm inclined to err on the side of keeping with this one. (Notable artists playing there is itself a sign of notability.) Bucketsofg 19:37, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Strong Keep, central element in the Cambridge phase of the folk revival of the late 50s/early 60s. Monicasdude 20:41, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and expand. Seems notable enough. Andrew Lenahan - Starblind 21:10, 14 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- notable to a folkie and a major Harvard Square destination. Haikupoet 03:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Long-time legendary club, much better known and influential in Boston than its size would indicate, long history, cultural touchstone.Herostratus 03:54, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.