Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Climbing techniques

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 18:27, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Climbing techniques

Wikipedia is not a guide to mountain climbing. It is not an indiscrimintory collection of information. It is not a soapbox. The article is not encyclopedic. Hbdragon88 17:37, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete I would tend to agree Hbdragon88. goofyheadedpunk 17:56, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • well, could you suggest a way of changing it to be acceptable and adhere to Wikipedia guidelines? Jshurak 19:04, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • How is this article different to glossary of climbing terms? Is there anything to say in general about the techniques listed in Category:Climbing techniques that warrants an overview article distinct from climbing? Uncle G 19:34, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Those are definitions. This article is a how-to guide, something which (if I understand correctly) is generally not allowed. For instance, WP:CVG doesn't allow walkthroughs to be posted on video game articles because that is of no interest to the casual reader; interested and advanced players will go to GameFAQs or someplace else to get that info. I think that the same reasoning should apply here: okay to define some common terms, but not to actually give tips and a how-to. Hbdragon88 20:05, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • I suppose the difference between this and a glossary of climbing terms is that these are terms that have to do with technique.
    • i.e. Belay Device will not appear in this article. Jshurak 20:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Someone not familiar with rock climbing terms would not know what to look for in the glossary of climbing terms.
    • Say someone needs to write an article on climbing techniques (for health class or a term paper or something like that), this person would essentially have to read every single definition in the glossary of climbing terms to find which pertain to techniques. Jshurak 20:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)
  • This article is not a how-to guide to rock climbing.
    • A how-to rock climbing guide would include when to use these techniques(something which has been removed from here.)
    • A how-to might also include proper rope usage or how backstepping is very useful in conjunction with the side pull to reach a high hold. Jshurak 20:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

When I wrote this article I had the idea of a glossary in mind. Jshurak 20:40, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Merge with glossary of climbing terms. A small amount of description of when a technique is used doesn't make this a HOWTO. A comment in American football explaining that people tend to punt in 4th-and-long doesn't turn that into a strategy guide... -- GWO

I don't think the most recent changes constitute techniques. They seem to be more forms or types of climbing. An overhang climb is not a really a technique as it is a type of route. I think the old page should be reinstituted. Jshurak 13:59, 14 July 2006 (UTC)

 AFD relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached.
 Please add new discussions below this notice. Thanks, Mangojuicetalk 19:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete and Redirect Climbing_technique could use improvement, but predates and is more encyclopediac than this one. Sanbeg 16:20, 20 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.