Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Climate change in Washington
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Keep. JERRY talk contribs 21:41, 20 January 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Climate change in Washington
The article says it, its a synthesis. Brusegadi (talk) 09:03, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
Delete "This is a synthesis of information about climate change that is specific to the state of Washington. At least initially it is being edited as a Class projectat the University of Washington that focuses on environmental economics." For once the article actually does open with its own rationale for deletion. Nick mallory (talk) 12:20, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Provisional keep. Let me explain. First, it seems the professor of this course has set his students loose on Wikipedia without much guidance, and probably without having read Wikipedia:School and university projects. My first inclination would be for an administrator to drop him a line (e-mail available at the bottom of the course web page: http://courses.washington.edu/envir235/) referring him to that Wikipedia document and perhaps inquiring as to his goals for the article. The topic is potentially notable; the reference to "synthesis" in the lede may just be the result of inexperience on the part of the students involved, not necessarily a declaration of intent to publish original research. Considering the course is just starting, I say give them time to develop the article into something that more closely matches Wikipedia guidelines. Powers T 14:10, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep per Powers. You know, that's not actually a bad idea. Provided that the article ends up meeting all of the requirements of WP:RS and so forth, I think a reasonable article could be put together. The topic, if valid, would definitely be notable. If no admin is willing or able to contact the professor, I'll do it - but I'm not an admin. UltraExactZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:25, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:NOTE. Otherwise every region of the globe, large or small, would deserve an article about its climate changes, which seems absurd. --Childhood's End (talk) 15:35, 14 January 2008 (UTC)
- Reply from professor/page creator I plead 100% guilty to being relatively unfamiliar with Wikipedia and to not having read (until now) Wikipedia:School and university projects, which I didn't know existed. But I plead 100% innocent to the claim of trying to create original research. By "synthesis" I simply meant (as LtPowers wrote) that we'll use reports like this one to create an entry on climate change in Washington State. Regarding Childhoodsend's comment about the absurdity of articles on regional impacts of climate change, it seems totally reasonable to me that each state (for example) could have a page on climate change. But that's just my opinion. What isn't my opinion is the issue of notability from WP:NOTE----how about these press reports? Regardless, I thank you all for your continued patience and guidance. Anyone wishing to contact me directly can email me at yoram (at) u (dot) washington (dot) edu. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Yorambauman (talk • contribs) (e-mail address obscured to defeat spam spiders -- Powers T)
- Keep for now I'm also concerned about this leading to lots of 'Climate change in x' articles, but a large-ish and climatically diverse US state seems to be a meaningful geographical area for this kind of article and it should be possible for a university class to come up with something good. Yorambauman's post shows that there are reliable sources on this topic, including what looks like an attempt at a comprehensive government report on the impact of climate change on the state. As a suggestion, the name of the article should probably be changed to something like Climate change in Washington state for clarity. --Nick Dowling (talk) 08:57, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- The title is correct, as the state's article is at Washington. Powers T 15:51, 15 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep: I see no reason to delete this as of now. It is a newer article (about 10 days old) that does need some work, however we all know that is no reason to delete an article. It is encyclopedic, informative, and interesting (but that is my POV). - Rjd0060 (talk) 02:25, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep: Not OR--Paleorthid (talk) 06:52, 17 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep. Not a good article, but not OR.Biophys (talk) 05:02, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - I think the article will need a LOT of work when the students have finished with it, however that's no reason to delete it. -- Roleplayer (talk) 18:04, 19 January 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.