Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Clifford Antone

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was keep. Mailer Diablo 12:34, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Clifford Antone

• Weak Delete : I fail to see the notability of this individual. His only claim to fame is perhaps that he was "mentor to Stevie Ray Vaughan, Jimmie Vaughan and numerous other musicians." Since the article does not expand on his mentoring of these fine musicians, I don't see the point of having the article. --Asbl 14:56, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
  • I have changed my vote to a Weak Delete, as the LA Times does not run an obituary about just anybody. We'll have to wait to see how the article develops. --Asbl 15:41, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep: Disclosure -- I am the first author of the article. The Wiki article on biograpnic notability gives different standards for living and (long) deceased persons. As Clifford Antone has only been deceased one week, the living standard should apply. He clearly meets several tests for notability: the Google Test yields more than 250,000 references, the Verifiability test is passed because his obituaries can be easily found in the NY Times, Washington Post, and LA Times. Antone was largely responsible for Austin's international fame as a music venue. He started a record label, and a blues club that was a featured nearly every major blues performer. Through his mentoring of musicians, his legacy will be felt nationally for many years. Antone's effect on Austin is very similar to that of Bill Graham to San Francisco. If the article does not yet fully express this signicance, a great deal more information is becoming available as many major newspapers are publishing his obituary. SteveHopson 15:10, 30 May 2006 (UTC)

Keep : This is a keep article for me as Antone's has always been 'light on the hill' for blues players. Here in Australia we in the Blues Society talk about the roots of blues that came from Austin and Cliffords zeal. regards Terry carlan

• Keep. I first heard of Antone's death in an Australian online music magazine Undercover News. Since then, he has had obituaries in a number of significant newspapers indicating widespread acceptance of his notability. He was a significant player in blues and in the Austin music scene which is one of the most significant in the US if not the world. For mine, he is both notable and verifiable. Capitalistroadster 19:27, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Antone was a big part of the development of modern blues through his work in the industry. Definitely notable. Sorry to hear about his passing, too. Tony Fox 17:11, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• By looking down the obituary list on this site, one gathers this is not a who's who list. As a whole, Wikipedia contains hundreds, if not thousands, of articles of little or no concern. Clifford Antone was a cog in what put Austin's music scene on the radar. He's not Don Arden or David Geffen, but a bit more relevant to Americana than Six Fat Dutchmen or Slingshot (band) or countless others that are about as relevant.

Vote to keep chaz171 {Note: Chaz171's comment was moved from the Clifford Antone discussion page without editing by SteveHopson.}

• Keep. A simple LexisNexis search yielded hundreds of newspaper articles about Antone, and his role in bringing future blues stars in front of audiences. I rate his importance with someone like Sam Phillips. Aguerriero (talk) 21:03, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per the others. Choalbaton 12:39, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.