Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christine Jessop
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep. Joyous 02:36, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Christine Jessop
Although her death was extremely tragic, this article doesn't establish why she or her murder was sufficiently notable to become encyclopedic. Thryduulf 12:23, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Delete. Unfortunately, unsolved murders are not sufficiently rare to make this notable. Wikipedia is not suitable as a memorial. Average Earthman 13:13, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I agree that most murder victims are below the bar. The Jessop case is in the top levels of national fame in Canada, and subject of one of and perhaps the most famous wrongful conviction in Canadian history. Strong keep. Samaritan 13:26, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- You've convinced me that Guy Paul Morin deserves his article, but that is not the topic of this vote. Was this case referred to in the Canadian media as the Morin trial/inquiry or the Jessop case? Google doesn't help, there aren't many hits at all for a variety of names, and 'Jessop case' refers more to a trial in India than this one. Average Earthman 13:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Household names in large countries are encyclopedic. Samaritan 13:59, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- That would depend on how the trial was presented - English people know about the Yorkshire Ripper, but would be very hard pressed to name one of his victims off the top of their heads. This means the Ripper is the subject of an article, but his victims are not. Average Earthman 17:34, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Household names in large countries are encyclopedic. Samaritan 13:59, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- You've convinced me that Guy Paul Morin deserves his article, but that is not the topic of this vote. Was this case referred to in the Canadian media as the Morin trial/inquiry or the Jessop case? Google doesn't help, there aren't many hits at all for a variety of names, and 'Jessop case' refers more to a trial in India than this one. Average Earthman 13:38, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Highly notable in Canadian law, and (unfortunately) virtually a household name. Jessop's murder and Morin's subsequent arrest, aquittal, conviction, appeals, and aquittal were a staple of Canadian news for more than a decade. Though I agree that unsolved murders are tragically common, this particular unsolved murder clears the notability bar. If the article isn't kept, then the material should definitely be merged into Guy Paul Morin with a redirect. --TenOfAllTrades 13:54, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- The reasons here are valid, but the article should make it clear why they are notable, not the VfD page. Thryduulf 15:10, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- I agree with Samaritan. Keep. --YUL89YYZ 17:11, Feb 4, 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. While Wikipedia is not a memorial, this death was particularly notable and newsworthy. Jayjg (talk) 19:16, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. —Mar·ka·ci:2005-02-4 20:37 Z
- I've added a link to wrongful conviction, which should make the significance of the case a bit more clear. I've also taken out the bit about the tree (which, while touching, is not encyclopedic in the slightest). And yes, it is an unqualified keep; Jessop is a household name in Canada, and people are, if not more likely to search for her specifically than for Morin, certainly equally likely. Bearcat 21:00, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Strong keep. From what I gather here, it's a very notable case of wrongful conviction. --Idont Havaname 23:37, 4 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, apart from her murder she wasn't notable herself. Wikipedia is not a crime database. Megan1967 01:45, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Spinboy 04:43, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep as per Samaritan. -- Curps 05:12, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep given its apparent significance in Canada. Capitalistroadster 06:58, 5 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Is notable in its own right (not as an example of an unsolved murder) TigerShark 00:29, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- keep. Yuckfoo 01:14, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. -- Necrothesp 03:53, 6 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and allow for organic growth. GRider\talk 18:57, 7 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- "Organic growth"? What more could be added?? HowardB 08:32, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Merge anything not there to Guy Paul Morin and redirect to that article HowardB 08:32, 8 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Tragically, as with Brian Howe (murdered at the age of three), Christine Jessop never got the chance to be notable herself.
Sharon Tate gets an article, because she was notable even outside of the manner of her death. George Lawrence Price is notable, because of the manner of his death. Christine Jessop... I don't think so. Incidentally, what about Nicole Simpson? DS 00:39, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
- Keep. Important in Canada. --Westendgirl 09:01, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
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