Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Christian Portland

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Delete of all articles by Jzg. Yanksox 20:41, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Christian Portland

Also nominated are Davis Tellman and Lorne Halladay. To put it simply this is a bizzarre case. I originally wondered upon the Portland article when doing New page patrol and asked for sources and was supplied such. When I went to a library near where I worked I actually stumbled upon one of the sources and checked out the book out of curiousity. When I read the book (three times for good measure) I found no mention of these subjects. Confused, I picked the other source and, again, nothing popped up. Concerned, I e-mailed both the Chicago Historical Society and the Chicago Photographic Collectors Society, asking about all three subjects and the Chicago Photographic Society. The CPCS Vice President responding stating, he had no idea whom the people were and that he had never heard of the Chicago Photographic Society, stating that the CPCS (which the article claims was the Chicago Photographic Society), was formed in 1971. After my e-mail with the Chicago Historical Society, I had a phone conversation with them that echoed the same concerns. It appears as far as I can tell, these subjects are ficitious and a hoax. Delete If any information is needed, I will supply it. Yanksox 03:54, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete all. You'd also think a supposedly pioneering group as the "Chicago Photographic Society" would show up in Google Books or Google Scholar at least ONCE, but no. Kudos to Yanksox for research above and beyond the call of duty, by the way. --Calton | Talk 04:11, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as above . Kudos on your thorough research. Also, none of the articles state just what it was that made these three notable (other than perhaps their bizarre deaths). Photography was well established by the 1880s and they'd have to have done more than just take photographs to be notable. --IslaySolomon 04:26, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete as above. Excellent work on the research checking by Yanksox. Hoaxer should be formally castigated Bwithh 04:39, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all as per Yanksox, unless the author can provide verified sources for the articles.  (aeropagitica)  (talk)  04:44, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all, fails WP:HOAX. --Coredesat talk. o.o;; 05:40, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete all with my gratitude to Mr. Y. Sox for his awesome dedication to this project. Barnstar him immediately! - CrazyRussian talk/email 05:47, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Yes, I second. a barnstar is certainly in order Bwithh 06:07, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete research is awesome and should be kept on record! Is there anywhere for such things? Tyrenius 06:19, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Alert I've just been checking all 3 articles and the editors who started and contributed to them, as well as the other edits of those editors. It seems on first inspection that there are a range of sockpuppets all making these fictitious articles about cultural figures, e.g. Satchel Cohen. I've got to sign off, but I wondered if anyone can look into this further? Tyrenius 06:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Satchel Cohen now has a page of quotations from his poems on Wikiquote, so if there are pranksters at work, they're getting busy. BigHaz 07:48, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
  • That's right - put there by the same editors. It's clever stuff. But google returns results only on these entries. Tyrenius 08:23, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

There's even more now. See User:Tyrenius/Satchel Cohen hoaxer --Tyrenius 10:36, 3 July 2006 (UTC)

Comment Thank you all for the kind words. I am very glad to see Tyrenius's and Kjkolb's work, I was suspecting something when I was looking through their conversations and when both of them confronted me on Portland's talk page. These appear to be complicated and thought out hoax articles. Yanksox 11:37, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
I hope Yanksox won't mind if I just clarify any ambiguity and say that the confrontation on Portland's talk page was with two of the suspect sockpuppets, not with Tyrenius and Kjkolb! Tyrenius 12:17, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The Defender of the Wiki Barnstar
Awarded to Yanksox, Tyrenius and Kjkolb for going above and beyond the call of Wikipedia duty for exposing the Satchel Cohen hoaxer.  Netsnipe  (Talk)  14:12, 3 July 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.