Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chrismahanukwanzakah (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep due to notability not being temporary. Davewild (talk) 16:55, 12 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chrismahanukwanzakah

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I nominated this page for deletion 2 years ago and it survived, I still think it was a neologism and and advertisement for Virgin Mobile and believe that no one uses it anymore. CastAStone/^/(talk) 21:42, 6 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Google refs seem to be from 2004 and 2005. If it was ever notable, it isn't now. JohnCD (talk) 21:49, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Gtstricky (talk) 22:03, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete- It is a made up holiday Frog47 (talk) 23:14, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep - It did get some media coverage from major sources and all that, keeping per all the statements in the original nom nom nom ViperSnake151 23:31, 6 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. While the term began only as an advertisement, it is now a notable meme. The argument if it was ever notable, it isn't now isn't correct because notability isn't something that comes and goes; if it's ever notable, it's always notable. The argument that no one uses the term anymore isn't correct because the term was used at least by the University of Cincinnati student newspaper as recently as 3 December 2007. WODUP 01:56, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• keep Various articles in newspapers and on the internet establish notability. See [1], [2]. --Hdt83 ^Chat 06:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• keep Granted, the original use was for the purpose of advertisement, the term has come to embody the universal spirit of celebration that occurs during this specific time of the year. My friends and I use it as a title for our December celebration when we come together across religious and cultural boundaries to embrace the spirit of togetherness that is shared by all religions and cultures. In response to a previous comment that states Chrismahanukwanzakah is a made up holiday, all holidays are made up, usually substituting prior holidays and mythology with newer ideologies. So how is this any different or any less valid? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.211.147.205 (talk) 09:46, 7 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. CastaStone and JohnCD seem unaware that notability does not expire. Having been notable in the past is sufficient; 99% of Wikipedia is things that have been notable in the past. Second, this is a campaign that received news coverage and won an EFFIE award, so it's notable as advertising apart from whatever notability the concept of a mixed-up holiday may have going forward. --Dhartung | Talk 12:37, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep. Its primary notability is as advertising, and should be documented as such. It is also a neologism that has been adopted into popular vernacular, although I find no external sources on OneLook for it yet (meaning that it probably hasn't been adopted by any notable dictionaries yet). Banazir (talk) 14:39, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep As mentioned above, notability certainly does not degrade over time. Lawrence Cohen 16:11, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Do they celebrate this holiday in Philiwarepragicago? :) Shalom (Hello • Peace) 17:28, 7 December 2007 (UTC)
• KeepIt's been adopted into the language as a humorous reference to what was once the Christmas season now expanded to include other practices besides the traditional Christian holiday. Virgil61 (talk) 08:03, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep I agree with Dhartung and Lawrence Cohen - notability does not expire. NRTurner (talk) 16:41, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete I see only the 04 ABV story and some web references. If there are more RSs,add them to the article. It is claimed to be into the vernacular, but it is said above that there are no sources for this yet. DGG (talk) 08:25, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge into Chrismukkah. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 18:30, 10 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep As noted above, current notability is not necessarily relevant; at the very least, the subject was notable 2-3 years ago.--GregRM (talk) 02:40, 11 December 2007 (UTC)

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