Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Smalling
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. ChetblongT C 01:12, 2 March 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Chris Smalling
Astoundingly, the PROD on this article has been disputed. Anyway, this player has never played above the Isthmian League Premier Division, which is three levels below a fully professional league and therefore an egregious failure to meet WP:ATHLETE ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football related deletions. ChrisTheDude (talk) 17:22, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Doesn't meet WP:BIO#Athletes or WP:BIO#Basic criteria. John Hayestalk 17:25, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Keep - England U18 schoolboys seems to meet WP:BIO#Athletes (top amateur level). It's easy to find sources. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 17:43, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete Obviously fails WP:BIO and consensus is that youth caps do not confer notability (and English football is not an amateur sport). пﮟოьεԻ 57 18:01, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. As has been said, this player fails WP:ATHLETE. The fact that he's played at U18 level is irrelevant - the amateur level criterion is for amateur sports... football is a professional sport. robwingfield «T•C» 18:06, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Schoolboy football is certainly amateur, as is the vast majority of football played in England. Youth caps would apply to (say) England U21 teams, a different thing, and I would be surprised if such a player (in England) was not already an established professional. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Indeed it is, making it not notable. I agree, it would be surprising if a player was capped for England at U21 level without having made an appearance in a fully professional league. However, that doesn't apply here. robwingfield «T•C» 18:28, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Schoolboy football is certainly amateur, as is the vast majority of football played in England. Youth caps would apply to (say) England U21 teams, a different thing, and I would be surprised if such a player (in England) was not already an established professional. -- roundhouse0 (talk) 18:18, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. GiantSnowman (talk) 18:39, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. BanRay 22:26, 25 February 2008 (UTC)
- Delete, "schoolboy football" is not a sport, football is. And the amateur clause does not apply. I.e. not notable. Punkmorten (talk) 19:04, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
Delete as per Punkmorten English peasant 01:28, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
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