Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Owen (director)

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The result was nomination withdrawn. Canley (talk) 04:10, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Chris Owen (director)

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Unverifiable. The National Film Institute of Australia does not seem to exist, and searches for Chris Owen together with Churcher's return nothing but mirrors of the article. Perhaps it's this Chris Owen, in which case the article is just completely factually incorrect, and we still have notability issues to contend with. Jfire (talk) 05:29, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Keep Chris Owen is mentioned in this New York Times article [1]. Catchpole (talk) 09:08, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

So that's a mention (not a feature) in one source, of someone who is not obviously the same as the Chris Owen of this article. Given the geographic proximity of Australia and Papua New Guinea, it seems somewhat likely that they are one and the same, and I'm fine with rewriting the article to reflect that, but I'd like to see a little bit more substantial coverage first. Jfire (talk) 09:32, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Unsure I created this stub (as it was the only redlink in a particular section) expecting it to be expanded by others, but this has not happened. I don't know enough about him to say either way I'm afraid. Grunners (talk) 10:41, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

Neutral I found an interview when he was with the Film Inst. in PNG and there's some in connection With the Australian Film Inst. which certainly seems to exist. I'm not sure whether it's enough to warrant inclusion Travellingcari (talk) 16:21, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Weak delete. Be aware it is the National Film Institute of Papua New Guinea[2], which certainly exists and receives some government funding[3]. I think an article on the institute is more likely to be sourceable, and Owen could be mentioned in it, but I just don't see enough source material online. Still, WP:CSB is worth keeping in mind. --Dhartung | Talk 21:27, 5 February 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions. -- Canley (talk) 00:29, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep and expand - has made a significant contribution to documentary making in PNG as per IMDB entry (see article for link).--Matilda ^talk 00:55, 6 February 2008 (UTC)
• Keep I've added his IMDB link, and some of his films (Bridewealth For a Goddess, Man Without Pigs) have won various festival awards [4][5]. Seems very well known in the field of ethnographic documentary film, and heavily involved in the PNG film industry. --Canley (talk) 01:00, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

• Addendum A search for "chris owen papua new guinea" in Google Books brings up dozens of references in film books, and a book about him: Expressive Culture in Papua New Guinea: A guide to three films produced by Chris Owen (1986) by Toby Alice Volkman. I'll add some references and do an expansion and cleanup shortly. --Canley (talk) 01:07, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

• Nice find, but he appears to be a coauthor on Expressive Culture, so not an independent source. On second though maybe Google just has bad data. Jfire (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

• Nomination withdrawn after excellent article rewrite by Canley and Matilda. Kudos! Jfire (talk) 03:14, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

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