Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Conley
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep. John254 02:26, 5 October 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Chris Conley
Non-notable band member. This article has been largely created by a horde of sockpuppets and seems to fail music. Please see Category:Suspected Wikipedia sockpuppets of R:128.40.76.3 and specifically the most recent incarnation User:Punkguy182. --Jack Merridew 16:29, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
- weak keep putting aside the shortcomings of
the article's creatorUser:R:128.40.76.3, Chris Conley is pretty much synonymous with a band that IMO, passes WP:MUSIC. An argument could be made to merge this and Saves the Day. I thinnk the non-free Image:ChrisC.jpg may be a problem (the editor believes that since he made a screen grab of a webcast he is free to GFDL-self the image), and I'm not convinced that all their records (Can't Slow Down (Saves the Day album), I'm Sorry I'm Leaving, Through Being Cool, Stay What You Are, In Reverie, Ups and Downs, Bug Sessions Volume One, Sound the Alarm, Under the Boards) are notable. Pete.Hurd 20:09, 29 September 2007 (UTC) - Keep A small, but very determined, group of editors insists on blanking this page into a redirect to Saves the Day, culminating in a WP:3RR violation by User:Eusebeus (see Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/3RR#User:Eusebeus reported by User:Alansohn (Result: Page protected). The page blanking has been justified on the basis that the article fails WP:BIO and, more specifically, WP:MUSIC, the excuse cited in the nomination above. Criterion 1 of WP:MUSIC states "It has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent from the musician/ensemble itself and reliable". A Google News Archive search found 107 articles from such publications as The New York Times, Rolling Stone, The Hollywood Reporter and other newspapers and magazines across the United States and Canada, which would clearly satisfy this criterion. Criteria 5 states "Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels (i.e. an independent label with a history of more than a few years and a roster of performers, many of which are notable).", which is also well-documented in the article. One could go through other criteria that are also satisfied, but there is no counterargument provided to demonstrate that WP:MUSIC's guidelines are not met by this article. The page has been protected to bar any further abuse by User:Eusebeus following his recent WP:3RR violation, with the strong suggestion made that the article should be discussed at Talk:Chris Conley. Apparently, there is no interest in observing Wikipedia policy or following through on suggestions for discussion. In the mean time, there has been no valid argument that this article does not satisfy Wikipedia:Notability criteria. Alansohn 00:12, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep: notable. Colonel Warden 06:14, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy keep This guy easily meets WP:MUSIC. Lugnuts 07:49, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Aye, quite notable, well sourced. Chubbles 08:49, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Speedy keep Lots of good sources, notable band. NASCAR Fan24(radio me!) 15:43, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep as separate article rather than merge into Saves the Day, since much of the media coverage, such as the Rolling Stone article, does focus on Conley himself. --Paul Erik 18:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep or merge to Saves the Day. Well-referenced. --Sc straker 22:41, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Easily passes WP:MUSIC. To much talk of trolling, and sockpuppetry which has nothing to do with an articles quality or a subjects notability. I suspect this AfD is just trolling by Jack Merridew looking from a response from User:R:128.40.76.3 who I have nothing to do with and really do not understand what his allegations and complaints are all about. Punkguy182 18:29, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
- Merge and Redirect per nom. This page has become a magnet - inexplicably - for COI and SPA edits. I aver that the singer is not really independently notable of his band, which is fairly clear from my old pal Alan's link to googlenews in his bureaucratic note. Given the garbage and junk that this article accumulates, along with the questionable notability of the singer, a redirect to Saves the Day is the best solution. Eusebeus 13:44, 2 October 2007 (UTC)
- Aver all you want, dear old buddy, but consensus here is clear that the content of the article and the more than hundred additional sources available via Google News demonstrate that Conley meets any and all standards of notability based on WP:MUSIC. Hopefully, the same clear consensus of notability that was so brazenly disregarded in blanking the article to a redirect on some 14 separate occasions, and that resulted in the recent WP:3RR violation, will not be disregarded after this AfD closes as a keep. Alansohn 02:06, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.