Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chris Bustin

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. AmiDaniel (talk) 03:32, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chris Bustin

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Fails Wikipedia:Notability (people). A failed candidate at UK GE 2005, and a candidate in an SP seat 2007 (see Scottish Parliament election, 2007). I suspect that this is going to be the first of several of these attempts to place a biography on Wikipedia. We have plenty of precedent here at AFD for deleting biogs of election candidates and failed candidates. Mais oui! 11:57, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

  • Weak Delete - information is sourced only from the Scottish Conservatives website, so no evidence of multiple non-trivial coverage in third-party sources to establish notability per WP:BIO. According to precedent, failed election candidates aren't inherently notable unless they meet WP:BIO independently. Walton Vivat Regina! 12:11, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom, although perhaps it would be kindest to wait until May 4th - after all he might get elected! Ben MacDui (Talk) 18:43, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
We begin Wikipedia articles after people have become notable, not before. --Mais oui! 21:03, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep it remains an open question whether major party candidates are notable even if not elected. I think someone who is twice such a candidate almost certainly is, though I know not everyone agrees. I ask those who know: How many such seats are there ? How many major candidates will there be? DGG 08:16, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Well, there are 73 First Past the Post constituencies, each with 4 candidates (a few have an independent standing too, but none of the minor parties - SSP, Greens etc are competing in the first vote this year). But then we also have long lists of candidates for the PR element in the 8 regions, many of whom are not actually FPTP candidates (eg Labour bans people from being on both), including absolutely tons of minor party candidates. I would guesstimate that there must be about 700 people who are standing in total. Wikipedia only has articles on the 115 existing MSPs (129 minus the 14 who are not standing again).
I ask you, do you really, really, really want another 600 new Wikipedia articles on 600 Scottish political nobodies?!? I for one know that I do not!! The standard of the existing Scottish politicians' articles is pathetically low on average anyway. Quality not quantity please. If this Tory Chris Bustin gets elected in Dundee East, then My God, then (but only then) he will be one of the most notable people in the history of modern Scottish politics ;) --Mais oui! 09:30, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep but rewrite to eliminate POV.--MacRusgail 10:54, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep per MacRusgail Thewinchester (talk) 05:26, 10 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep- Per the same reasons as DDG. Mastrchf91 23:58, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
  • delete no references and does this dude even exists. Gman124 01:31, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Only claim to notability thusfar is losing elections. I'm with Mais oui! on the topic of not including unsuccessful candidates for public office, even if they represent major parties. It would set a bad precedent, for the UK and the rest of the world. Caknuck 02:58, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.