Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chokladboll
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This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record.
The result of the debate was keep Sjakkalle 11:41, 11 May 2005 (UTC)
[edit] Chokladboll
Saved from speedy. Seems authentic. Keep. —msh210 20:06, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- I'll change my vote to keep as the article makes sense now. KFP 16:56, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, looks like racism to me. Feydey 20:49, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, not encyclopedic. --Carnildo 23:16, 26 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Delete, the poster can't even tell us what it is (though I suspect it's a comestible). Should have been speedied. RickK 23:59, Apr 26, 2005 (UTC)
- Cleanup, it's linked to Cuisine of Sweden and seems authentic. It's just very badly written. If we take this off, we should take off alot of the other Cuisine of Sweden links. Kyle543 00:46, Apr 27, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: this is a simple type of chocolate-coloured candy or pastry sold in Sweden that has commonly been called negerboll, very literally "negro ball" ("ball" as in something round, nothing else). This has been the object of some public controversy, involving the Ombudsman against Discrimination, and a café in southern Sweden was recently actually sued over offering negerbollar and forced to change the name. People who find it particularly important to demonstrate their political incorrectness make a point of ordering "negro balls" with their coffee, but for the most part the transition to the new terminology, chokladboll ("chocolate ball"), has been smooth and painless. I can't really think of a good way to make an encyclopedia article out of this. In any case, the controversy, which may be mildly interesting in some way, is over the word, not the thing in itself, and it is over the N-word, not the Ch-word, so like with N****r, any article about that issue should probably be under that title. Seen purely as a part of Swedish cuisine, it seems doubtful if it is interesting enough for an article of its own, but could possibly be mentioned in an article on Swedish pastry or candy, if one were to be written. -- Uppland 01:35, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Jeez, if you had put that in the article it would help. Ben-w
- Keep and continue to expand. Megan1967 05:40, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and cleanup, as notable pastry and linguistic controversy. Kappa 21:10, 27 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep and expand even more. bbx 02:18, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- keep working on this and dont rush to conclusions Yuckfoo 16:39, 28 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep Getting better. Paul August ☎ 04:26, Apr 30, 2005 (UTC)
- Comment: this might well be kept as a separate article for the time being, but should eventually be merged somewhere. There is a similar controversy in Germany over the use of the word Negerkuß ("negro kiss", another type of chocolate treat). In the longer run, a good home should be made for both of these things in an article on a more general topic. There are, I believe, many other examples of racial slurs or stereotypes having been used in advertising and product naming before this was seen as controversial. Uppland 11:18, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
- Keep, provided that somebody cleans the article up so that it actually describes the food in question and not just the controversy over its name. Dr.frog 16:27, 30 Apr 2005 (UTC)
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