Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chin Ce

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete both.. Avi 18:14, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chin Ce

Chin Ce (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

This is a Nigerian poet who doesn't appear to be very notable. The organization he seems to be affiliated with Africasearch.org is a group of writers who publish via lulu.com [1]. His works of fiction are all from lulu.com (self-published). Google doesn't seem to bring forth anything to illustrate notability either. [2]. An article on one of his books has already been deleted [3]. IrishGuy talk 00:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

I am also nominating the following related page because it is one of his self-published books:

Gamji College (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

IrishGuy talk 00:34, 1 February 2007 (UTC)

  • delete both per nom. Chris 04:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Both articles. Non notable subject, found nothing to assert his notability. ← ANAS Talk? 08:46, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete both - poet fails WP:BIO. MER-C 08:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete both no sufficient proof of notability here --JavazXT 12:49, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep This is a valuable article and would need wikifying if kept.Tellyaddict 17:43, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Both Does nto assert notability and is not verifiable. 67.182.15.183 - Aeon1006 19:48, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry All the above comment was mine I forgot to log in Æon Insanity Now! 20:03, 1 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete both per nom. Realkyhick 09:38, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Nigeria-related deletions. --   ⇒ bsnowball  11:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
  • keep the bio, not the book. bearing in mind he's nigerian/ghanaian (where they have less internet remember? please read WP:CSB) what's there plus the pdf link i just added [4] and say [5] meet 'multiple independent mentions' per wp:bio.  ⇒ bsnowball  11:36, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Chin Ce, redirect Gamji College to his page. Him and his work are covered by multiple independent sources. It can be very hard to establish notability for Africa related subjects - even if they are indeed notable, as I think Ce is - but it can be done. Picaroon 20:04, 2 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep poet, strong redirect book. Failure of the google test doesn't prove non-notability; certainly for subjects like this. Definitely needs better sourcing but print sources take time to find and evaluate. Eluchil404 07:43, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete both unless sourced. Addhoc 13:55, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep The so-called "Google test" is nonsense since it assumes anything and everything is on the internet, which simply is not true. Plus, many Third World authors self-publish on the internet these days because it is their only resource. I agree that this article needs to be cited with source material provided, but it has not been proven that it is non-notable and should be deleted. StudierMalMarburg 19:20, 7 February 2007 (UTC)
Au contraire. Articles need to prove notability to be kept, not disprove notability to be deleted. -- Avi 18:13, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.