Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chilean Spanish

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP - time to get working on the cleanup, guys! -- 9cds^(talk) 01:24, 5 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Chilean_Spanish

Inaccurate/false content, consensus in discussion page

• Delete per nom --Guinnog 12:37, 30 May 2006 (UTC) Changed to weak keep and improve after reading arguments below. --Guinnog 15:45, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose deletion. Certainly seems like a valid topic. Accuracy disputes are not normally grounds for deletion, which would render the article's extensive edit history invisible. The talk page editors need to be bolder in editing out inaccuracies and substituting more valid content. I have no grounds to pass judgment on the accuracy of what's there now. Smerdis of Tlön 15:05, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
• Salvageable, but massive editing required -- This article has some useful information and much information that is patently incorrect. Chilean Spanish is not so different as the article contends. What the author calls Chilean Spanish should instead be called Chilean colloquialisms, or "modismos" in Spanish. I've spent considerable time in central and southern Chile (though not northern), and my wife is Chilean. I have not encountered the second-person plural in Chile, except in the case of "Como estás?" In southern Chile, you will sometimes hear "Como estai?" (notice no 's'). The vocabulary section could be retained, and the page could be renamed Chilean Idioms or something similar. Glenn R. Harshman 18:11, 30 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Per nom. ILovePlankton ^{( L)} 00:32, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep If the article is wrong, don't delete it, fix it. Spacepotato 08:02, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Spacepotato. --Alsayid 13:40, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Spacepotato. Carlossuarez46 17:44, 31 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep the form "vo" is used throughout Chile (informally), not just in the South. In "symmetric" conversations between people of all ages, but especially youth, this form is used, most of all the phrase "Como estai?" Though this difference is not literary (as is the Argentine "vos" form, see Rayuela by Cortazar for one example) it is nonetheless real and should definitely be noted. I have lived in Chile for nearly a year and traveled to north, central, south. (Sean 18:33, 31 May 2006 (UTC))
• Delete - The current article is not very encyclopedic. This topic is important and interesting, but it deserves a better article. (from the scratch better). baloo_rch 15:35, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and Cleanup - The article is very messy and unencyclopaedic but those are not valid reasons to delete. Chilean Spanish does differ from forms of Spanish spoken in other countries so this is a legitimate article (just wrong on many points). Needs major overhaul, not deletion.--WilliamThweatt 15:57, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Start from Scratch - Starting from scratch won't be so hard. People from chile use this kind of speak in their everyday lives, so they don't need to research too extensively. Explanations for the origins of MANY chilean terms can be found (probably part-hidden) in the webpage of the chilean newspaper La Cuarta http://www.lacuarta.cl, because it has a section about chilean speak ("la ficha pop") and is published daily since years ago. I'm sorry I don't have time or motivation to do it myself. My opinion is that it's just a moderately distorted spanish with many colloquialisms. -- ANONYMOUS CHILEAN
• Keep. Seems to be an informative article. I don't see any reason why this subject shouldn't be covered by WP. --Document 23:00, 3 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.