Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chikyunoinochi

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete (without prejudice against recreation with more content). —Quarl (talk) 2007-02-13 09:26Z

[edit] Chikyunoinochi

Chikyunoinochi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

The article fails WP:V (alone not a reason for deleting) and I could find no evidence that the topic passes WP:Notability. I haven't prodded it because the poem exists, but the online sources I found are in Japanese (so I can't judge whether they establish notability). I also didn't speedy it because this is a bundled nomination (see below). Searching for the title yields 1 unique result. Searching for "Chikyu No Inochi" yields 5 results. Searching for the author, "Satoshi Kadokura" yields 1,190 unique results, but I'm not sure all (or even most) of them are about the poet (the article doesn't provide much context and searching for +"Satoshi Kadokura" poet -wikipedia gives only 14 results). Please do not judge solely on the basis of Google hits (or maybe see if there's anything in the Japanese version of Google)--I am only providing the results I found so other editors might explore it. If anyone can give sources (print or electronic) establishing the notability of the poem and its author, I will happily withdraw my nomination(s). If no such sources exist, then both articles should be deleted. Black Falcon 02:54, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

I am also nominating the article on the poem's author as I couldn't find any reliable and non-trivial sources on him and currently the only claim to his notability made in the article is the poem. Black Falcon 02:57, 8 February 2007 (UTC)

Kadokura Satoshi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
Kadokura satoshi (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) (added by closing admin)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletions. -- Neier 07:05, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Chikyunoinochi, no opinion on Kadokura Satoshi at this time. Kadokura's page on the JA Wiki can be found here. It was created in December and a few different editors have worked on it. He appears to be mainly a songwriter, for fairly famous Japanese musicians, and has about 23,000 Ghits under his kanji name (門倉聡). If the result of his stub is to delete, it should be without bias against future recreation. If kept the name should be flipped to Satoshi Kadokura to reflect proper naming order per WP:MOS-JP. Dekimasuが... 07:18, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • (Edit conflict): Comment: There is a Japanese wikipedia page which may or may not be for the same guy ja:門倉聡, where he is described as a song writer (but, not a lyricist?) for some quite notable songs. I'm withholding my vote on the person until there is more evidence. As to the poem, I can't dig up anything of any relevance in Japanese either ( 地球の命 ). So Delete the poem. Neier 07:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
    • Looks like you're probably right. I turned up no real indication of anything through the poem's title or using hiragana on the given name. Result: reconfirm delete on the poem, delete Kadokura Satoshi as well, unless someone wants to write an article on the songwriter. Dekimasuが... 07:39, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete the poem Keep the songwriter per the above comments. Inkpaduta 17:41, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • speedy delete as A1 and A7. The author might be notable, but the poem itself has few to nonexistant sources (even in japanese) and the article asserts no context whatsoever. A translation of the title of a poem does not an article make. Wintermut3 22:44, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment by nom - per Dekimasu, if the articles are deleted I believe it should be "without bias against future recreation" unless, of course, it is recreated containing exactly the same (one-sentence) information. Black Falcon 23:22, 8 February 2007 (UTC)
    • comment to the comment by nominator I agree that this should be held without prejudice, it MIGHT be notable, or expandable should more content arise, I just don't see anything right now that vouches for notability independant of the poem's author's own. Wintermut3 12:27, 10 February 2007 (UTC)
      • Oh, I agree, my comment was not in response to your post, but was rather directed to the closing admin. Cheers, Black Falcon 18:19, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Speedy Delete No assertion of notability, hardly any context or information at all. Just wanted to note that it's amusing how the discussion here is like a hundred times longer than the article itself. ShadowHalo 13:22, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete - this file, which lists the entire poem, dates it as an innovation of this year, thus it is probably not notable. As an aside, the title is mispelled; it should be Chikyūnoinochi as per Hepburn romanization. --Curtmack of the Asylum 19:17, 12 February 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.