Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chicago Magic

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete --Bubba hotep 19:18, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Chicago Magic

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Yes, this is a very successful amateur football club, but it's still an amateur/youth club and therefore not notable. NawlinWiki 03:47, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Red card. (That's delete to those of you not into soccer/football.) Amateur teams at this level are not notable, barring extraordinary newsworthiness such as a tragedy. Realkyhick 05:35, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Keep If extraordinary success is ignored, but tragedy rewarded with a wikipedia entry, we may see a wave of tragic incidents in amateur football clubs which could cripple the sport.WunNation 12:37, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

Comment since posting the above, User:WunNation has been indefinitely blocked as a single purpose trolling account. - Iridescenti (talk to me!) 14:55, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Keep, 14 national championships seems notable. The league (as part of USL) has only been in operation since 1986.[1] The redlinked names are rather pointless as not even the bluelinked ones, that I could find, actually led to the correct person -- they're just common names. If any Magic players end up playing professionally that should be noted, but Wikipedia is not a sports roster. --Dhartung | Talk 14:13, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, I take that back. There are individual teams at each age level from 13 to 20 and then boys and girls teams on top of that, so this is more like a group of teams and it isn't clear that the championships were won individually by any one of them. [2] --Dhartung | Talk 14:19, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. ChrisTheDude 20:01, 31 March 2007 (UTC)

• Delete non-notable. Tangerines 21:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Strong Keep - 75 Illinois State champions, 14 national championships, #1 soccer team (youth) 3 years running and per WP:V, 1,370,000 hits for "Chicago Magic Soccer Club" on Google. Seems pretty notable from where I am sitting. Thor Malmjursson 21:56, 31 March 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. There are a few too many zeroes on that number of Google hits; I see only 1,360. [3] --Metropolitan90 06:44, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
  • The higher number (or something close to it) is returned if you search without the quote marks i.e. it picks up any page containing the words Chicago, Magic, Soccer and Club anywhere on the page, not necessarily together, for example this highly (ir)relevant page ChrisTheDude 07:28, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak delete youth level clubs generally are not notable. Qwghlm 19:35, 1 April 2007 (UTC)
• Weak keep due to the fact that school and college level sport is rather big in the USA. Pro-teams use a draft-system rather than a youth-system afterall. The article needs a lot of work though, and a lot of those red-links need removing. aLii 22:47, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
  • This club isn't a school or college team, though. --Metropolitan90 06:09, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: they're notable as said above. DCUnitedFan2011 16:21, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Youth side, might be recreated once they poduce a top player.--BanRay 18:30, 6 April 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.