Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cheneyism

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The result of the debate was DELETE. Postdlf 23:12, 13 Jun 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Cheneyism

This is a politically-biased rant; it is not informative. At best this is a slang term which does not belong in an encyclopedia. michael 01:26, 29 May 2005 (UTC)

  • Delete I think this has been deleted before. Xcali 01:32, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete hilariously angry article, but complete crap as well--Sophitus 01:38, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
  • BJAODN. — Phil Welch 02:12, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
    • Since the funny/profane stuff was already removed from the article, I went ahead and BJAODN'd the old version. Change vote to plain Delete. — Phil Welch 02:59, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Slang term. No notable third party references. Zzyzx11 (Talk) 02:40, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • This page is completely contradicted by this and this, which imply that Cheneyism is a political philosophy or ideology associated with a specific politician, akin to Thatcherism, Blairism, Bushism, McCarthyism, and so forth. It's supported (in its few relatively unbiased assertions, at any rate) by things like this and this, which imply that the using of words like "fuck" is Cheneyism, indicating that this is a style of speaking, akin to Spoonerism and Malapropism (albeit nowhere near as idiosyncratic as them, given that it is just simple, common, profanity). There appear to be two things here. They are distinct from each other, albeit that one is little different from the concept of profanity. profanity we have covered. So it comes down to whether Cheneyism the political philosophy is distinct enough from Bushism to warrant being separately discussed in its own right. (A few people, such as writers for Time, appear to have combined the two into a political philosophy that they refer to as "Bush-Cheneyism".) If it isn't, this should be just a disambiguation between profanity and Bushism. If it is, this should be an article on the ideology with a pointer to profanity. Cleanup, in either event. Uncle G 03:52, 2005 May 29 (UTC)
  • Comment ---I want to vote "delete", but then just to be consistent I'd have to nominate Bushism, which isn't really better. I'm not a fan of either of these guys, but neither of them are exceptional abusers of the English language, compared to other politicians. ----Isaac R 04:43, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
    • There's anthologies of Bushisms published, which makes it more notable. Nateji77 04:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
      • That's attributable to anti-Bush partisanism, not notability. I'm an anti-Bush partisan myself, but I don't consider his tendency to mangle language to deserve its own article. The rest of Bushism has to do with his rhetorical/propaganda style, and is redundant with other articles. Bushism really deserves a VfD for its soapboxiness, but I lack any inclination to fight such a energy-consuming, futile battle. ----Isaac R 16:04, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete POV, not notable, neologism. Megan1967 04:53, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete or redirect to cheney's page. certainly don't need one page about a politician and then a second about the way he phrases things, when only the former is notable. Nateji77 04:54, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. I don't think anyone can seriously deny that "both Cheney and Rove are bald, fat, evil cocksuckers", but as of yet, the term just isn't sufficiently established in the English language. Eixo 07:14, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Neologism, POV rant. Quale 07:48, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete - although I do wish I could be this funny when I'm angry --Doc (?) 12:34, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. POV rant. Jayjg (talk) 15:10, 29 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Keep, remove profanity, but move this to some kind of humor page. Ryan Prior 16:13, May 29, 2005 (UTC)
    • Comment: That would be Bad Jokes and Other Deleted Nonsense.
  • Delete. NeoJustin 00:34, May 30, 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete. Neologism. Klonimus 08:02, 30 May 2005 (UTC)
  • Delete neologism. JamesBurns 06:52, 2 Jun 2005 (UTC)
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