Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cheating in Counter-Strike

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep and cleanup. KrakatoaKatie 08:51, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cheating in Counter-Strike

Not important and not encyclopedia worthy to me. ASDFGHJKL 15:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Might as well delete it, morons who know nothing just randomly delete information and links, so whats the point. Wiki is retarded anyways.
• KeepVery informative and in-depth article, is a great reference to anti-cheat developers and just the curious joe. Anonymous 15:39, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Valve Anti-Cheat. The article has some information that might be useful to Valve Anti-Cheat (e.g. references to the types of cheats used). --Brad Beattie ^(talk) 16:10, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep encyclopedia-worthy to me. M1ss1ontomars2k4 ^{(T | C | @)} 16:16, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, need more of a reason than "Not important and not encyclopedia worthy to me.". I'm not convinced and the article may be a little messy but can't see any reason for it's deletion.--Andeh 16:47, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Normally, an article about cheating in a video game would get a strong "delete" from me, but this subject seems to be noteworthy and well-referenced. --Mr. Lefty (talk) 16:48, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep as it is notable and reasonably well-written. --Habap 17:13, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Cheating in online games. Seems like it would be a better location.Montco 17:49, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep. Cheating in Counter-Strike is a broad and popular topic itself. Unless the nominator can provide more information on which criteria of Wikipedia that this article fails, instead of just expressing his own opinion, I recommend keep. AQu01rius (User | Talk | Websites)  18:04, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. This seems to be original research without proper inline citations. While I don't think this is all original research (so I'd actually lean towards keeping it) there may be major portions of the article which would have to be cut (unfortunately, I don't know which parts, because of the lack of inline citations). ColourBurst 18:50, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been added to the list of CVG deletions. -- moe.RON ^{talk | done | doing} 22:09, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. This article is longer than is feasible for such a subject, and there are no inline references. I can't believe cheating in Counter-Strike specifically is any more or less notable than in any of the glut of first-person shooters to choose from. Aimbots, DLL hacking and model replacements are all standard methods. What's so special about this article? Garrett^Talk 00:44, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• keep and cleanup. Counter-Strike is the most popular multiplayer FPS, and therefore has had some of the most sophisticated cheats and countermeasures. No valid reason for deletion given. — brighterorange (talk) 02:15, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to Cheating in online games, Valve_Anti-Cheat, and Counter-Strike as appropriate. The problem is that the current article seems to be bits of information about all three subjects thrown together into a big jumble. --Alan Au 10:04, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Article seems fine, reasons for nomination is way too insubstantial. The Kinslayer 11:03, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge - As per Edison. Makes sense otherwise you may as well have individual articles for each game detailing online cheats. The Kinslayer 16:56, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
• Merge Into an article on Cheating in online games. Original research. References (except for one article in what appears to be Swedish) are to other online sites. No evidence of notability beyond fansites. Sounds like fans find it interesting, but a bit "Walled garden." Does not seem like it belongs in Wikipedia.Edison 16:41, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• Merge,I started this debate. With all your reasons, I would like to vote merge. Maybe delete was a little extreme. --ASDFGHJKL 19:48, 23 October 2006 (UTC)

• keep please the reasons for erasing are too insubstantial Yuckfoo 01:55, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Delete as almost all of the article is OR. I realize there are a couple reliable resources, so merge what can directly cited to Counter-Strike or other appropriate articles. Wickethewok 16:10, 24 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Just because you don't find it important doesn't mean no one else will. I think that because it's the most popular FPS, it probably justifies a page such as this. It probably does need some cleaning up, however. Mhtbhm 09:35, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep I think it's an interessting and informative article –– Sensenmann 16:33, 25 October 2006 (UTC)

• keep seems quite informitive, detailed and encylopedic to me

Armanalp 18:25, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Even if an article does not seem "encyclopedia worthy" to one person, that isn't to say another person would find it interesting if not helpful. --Diametes T. Jackson 18:29, 26 October 2006 (UTC)

• Keep Counter-strike has a large enough fan base that many could find this information important. Valoem ^talk 19:59, 27 October 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.