Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Charles John Spencer

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 04:46, 5 October 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Charles John Spencer

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This biographical article violates WP:V, WP:BLP, WP:BIO and WP:NOR. It has no sources and has been so tagged since January 2007. Sandstein 06:55, 29 September 2007 (UTC)

  • Keep but move back to Tony Mamaluke with no redirect. Probably can be sourced, in that Tony Mamaluke is notable within the pro wrestling world. But nobody talks about this guy as "Charles John Spencer" (Not to be confused with Princess Di's brother) anymore than they talk about "Terrence Gene Bollea" (lookitup). Mandsford 12:35, 29 September 2007 (UTC)
  • That's not a reason to keep. If it can be sourced, please do it now. Otherwise, the article still fails WP:V, etc. Sandstein 13:26, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Please do it now? Oh, I can't do it now, Sandy. I'm eating lunch. But you start working on it, and I'll be along to help later on this afternoon. I promise. Mandsford 15:30, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • No. According to WP:V, "the burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material." If you want to keep the article, you have to do the work of sourcing it, not I. Also per WP:V, "if no reliable, third-party sources can be found for an article topic, Wikipedia should not have an article on it.".
Aw gee too bad. And if you want to delete the article, it looks like you will have to find someone else besides yourself to speak up. Doesn't look like it's going too well, but please keep trying, my friend. Mandsford 20:16, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
Please be civil. --Naha|(talk) 14:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Wrestling-related deletions.
  • Keep, He passes the notability policy for having held the ECW Tag title and the another major independent title, the ROH Tag title. I've also begun to source the article and will continue to do so, but you'll have to bear with me and assume good faith, as I have several midterms and papers due at school this week, so Wikipedia isn't exactly my top priority for the time being. Nikki311 17:11, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, almost definitely passes notability, however, article needs major rework. Davnel03 21:05, 30 September 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Niki311. --Naha|(talk) 14:27, 1 October 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep. My main issue is the sources - if Nikki311 can remedy that, then the article is fine. I don't see any WP:BLP violations, except as incidental to the lack of sources - perhaps nom would elaborate? Tony Mamaluke redirects to this article; I'd recommend leaving it that way, simply because Mr. Spencer might get another gig, with another character's identity (See also Mick Foley; his characters such as Cactus Jack and Dude Love redirect to his main article, under his real name). Best, ZZ Claims ~ Evidence 14:38, 3 October 2007 (UTC)
    • Except Mick Foley competed under three different names in the same company at the same time, as well as competing under his real name. Charles John Spencer has been performing under the name "Tony Mamaluke" consistantly for nine years. Nenog 15:43, 3 October 2007 (UTC)


The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.