Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Chad Hauf
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was Delete. —Quarl (talk) 2006-12-29 15:05Z
[edit] Chad Hauf
There is a weak claim of notability here, since it is claimed that he played for a minor league baseball team for a "stint". Not sure how long a "stint" is, or if he played, or if this is WP:NFT since there are no references. Since he is today playing hockey at Northern Iowa, I think it more likely this is a gentle attack page. His fellow hockey players are saying he left hockey for baseball. Or maybe a vanity page. Who knows? I think this page could easily be recreated if a reference is found, or if he does something really notable.Obina 22:01, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per WP:V. I can't find any evidence online of his alleged brief professional baseball career (which probably should not qualify him for a Wikipedia article even if it can be verified, since it allegedly took place in an independent league not even affiliated with Minor League Baseball). He does seem to be verifiable as playing club-level sports at a university, but that's not the highest level of amateur sports; he'd have to be playing on a varsity team to qualify under WP:BIO. --Metropolitan90 22:59, 23 December 2006 (UTC)
- Strong delete He was temporarily a minor league baseball player. That's a pretty small claim to notability, and definitely not one that helps him pas WP:BIO. -- Kicking222 03:15, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Actually, professional athletes meet WP:BIO. --badlydrawnjeff talk 05:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete Insufficient assertion of notability. Caknuck 04:12, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Keep if evidence that he played for Sioux City can be found. If so, he meets WP:BIO. --badlydrawnjeff talk 05:35, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sioux City plays in an independent minor league (at the AA level). While it is (barely) fully-professional, it is hardly "at the highest level". And from the looks of it, he was a fringe player there, at best. Caknuck 05:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- "Professional" does not need to be at the highest level of that professional league. --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- CommentMay I suggest the point is that this is unverified claim? Badlydrawnjeff, since you are a "keep" if this can be verified, should the closing mod call your comment an abstain since at this point there is no evidence? As discussed on a talk page here, with 1.5MM pages, Wikipedia needs to ensure we are accurate more than we need to worry if we delete a page or two about an unreferrenced minor league ball player. A page could be recreated if a source turns up someday.Obina 14:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- The closing person should consider my comment a keep if evidence he played for Sioux City surfaces. It's explicitly clear. Also, that incredibly short-sighted proposal is just that, and has zero significance to this debate. --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:38, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- CommentMay I suggest the point is that this is unverified claim? Badlydrawnjeff, since you are a "keep" if this can be verified, should the closing mod call your comment an abstain since at this point there is no evidence? As discussed on a talk page here, with 1.5MM pages, Wikipedia needs to ensure we are accurate more than we need to worry if we delete a page or two about an unreferrenced minor league ball player. A page could be recreated if a source turns up someday.Obina 14:37, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- "Professional" does not need to be at the highest level of that professional league. --badlydrawnjeff talk 14:10, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Sioux City plays in an independent minor league (at the AA level). While it is (barely) fully-professional, it is hardly "at the highest level". And from the looks of it, he was a fringe player there, at best. Caknuck 05:59, 24 December 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. The minor-league baseball claim is meaningless, verified or not, since it's a level not even the Baseball Encyclopedia covers, a level of professionalism that was long ago decided was insufficient. And if all that can be said is a directory listing, then out it should on the basis that -- like it or not -- WP is not a directory. --Calton | Talk 04:40, 25 December 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
