Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Castle, New Rochelle
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was delete. Elkman (Elkspeak) 21:42, 6 June 2008 (UTC)
[edit] Castle, New Rochelle
Article was a section that was copied from a now-deleted article (see Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Rochelle (Zip-Code Areas), New York). Subject matter is essentially bogus; no reliably sourced evidence exists that "Castle" is a name for this zip code, and zip codes are not a basic unit for US census data. Although earlier PROD template was removed with a note saying "notable per ghits, secondary and third party sources are abundant", the article still does not cite those "abundant sources". (Furthermore, ghits don't confer notability, not to mention that I can't find many ghits.) Orlady (talk) 22:40, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
I am also nominating the following related page for identical reasons:
- South Side, New Rochelle (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) Orlady (talk) 22:46, 1 June 2008 (UTC)
- Weak Keep Wikipedia has ample articles for neighborhoods within other cities. The United States Census Bureau tracks data for many ZIP codes under its ZIP Code Tabulation Area, which closely corresponds to the associated ZIP code, making it a "basic unit for US census data", which should match the data at this link. I would need to see more details on the naming of the area to fully consider the title of the article. Alansohn (talk) 05:23, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. Especially with regard to "South Side", the local papers at hometown.com use the term frequently. MrPrada (talk) 13:33, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I wholeheartedly agree that it is valid to have articles about neighborhoods, but I have not yet seen evidence that either "Castle" or "South Side" are actual neighborhood names in New Rochelle, much less that the zip codes correspond to neighborhoods with these names. In 10 weekly editions of the New Rochelle Sound Report newspaper (cited by MrPrada), the only reference to "South Side" is as part of the name of a local Boy's Club (in an article in this edition). Lots of communities have institutions with names like "South Side Boy's Club," so the existence of an institution with that name does not provide reliably sourced evidence that the article about the South Side neighborhood is anything more than original research. --Orlady (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, I noticed that the article is "South Side", and the term typically used for the neighborhood is "South End". I do think we should contact the article's creator and findout where the terms came from. MrPrada (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The article's creator was a sockpuppet of User:Jvolkblum. --Orlady (talk) 17:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- The articles creator was actually User:Brewcrewer. The user appears to have created the article based on information from another article which was was tagged for deletion. The term comes from census related data.--219.53.248.54 (talk) 21:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC) — 219.53.248.54 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- Yes, I was the creator, and I guess Orlady got confused. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- The articles creator was actually User:Brewcrewer. The user appears to have created the article based on information from another article which was was tagged for deletion. The term comes from census related data.--219.53.248.54 (talk) 21:51, 2 June 2008 (UTC) — 219.53.248.54 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
- The article's creator was a sockpuppet of User:Jvolkblum. --Orlady (talk) 17:59, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Actually, I noticed that the article is "South Side", and the term typically used for the neighborhood is "South End". I do think we should contact the article's creator and findout where the terms came from. MrPrada (talk) 17:16, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Comment. I wholeheartedly agree that it is valid to have articles about neighborhoods, but I have not yet seen evidence that either "Castle" or "South Side" are actual neighborhood names in New Rochelle, much less that the zip codes correspond to neighborhoods with these names. In 10 weekly editions of the New Rochelle Sound Report newspaper (cited by MrPrada), the only reference to "South Side" is as part of the name of a local Boy's Club (in an article in this edition). Lots of communities have institutions with names like "South Side Boy's Club," so the existence of an institution with that name does not provide reliably sourced evidence that the article about the South Side neighborhood is anything more than original research. --Orlady (talk) 16:12, 2 June 2008 (UTC)
- Delete. I created the article in the hopes of resolving Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/New Rochelle (Zip-Code Areas), New York by copy and pasting New Rochelle (Zip-Code Areas), New York into three seperate articles. I didn't bother checking the original article's verifability. The lack of sources and Orlady's extensive research in this matter clearly indicate that these article creations were a mistake. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 06:24, 3 June 2008 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
