Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cast of Saving Private Ryan

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was to delete the article. --  Denelson83  23:13, 23 August 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Cast of Saving Private Ryan

Completing incomplete nomination. No need for this -- it's duplicative of the IMDB link in the main article on the film. It's inappropriate for a general reference encyclopedia to have complete cast lists, even for major films. NawlinWiki 16:01, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per nom. A link to the film's IMDb page in the main article is certainly sufficient. -- Kicking222 16:05, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Wikipedia is not an extension of IMDb and IMDb is not an extension of Wikipedia. Being a duplicate of another reference website is by itself not a good enough reason to delete any material. Why shouldn't a general reference encyclopedia contain cast lists? By the way, this one is certainly not complete anyway. Also, if you look at an article like Stephan Grothgar, this article is the only one linking to this actor. Doesn't it make sense to have actors linked from the films they played in? olivier 16:12, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
  • Perhaps Grothgar isn't notable enough for Wikipedia, then. Delete, Saving Private Ryan is sufficient. Danny Lilithborne 17:58, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
    • Turns out Mr. Grothgar is not very well known as a film actor, but is better known for TV roles and video game voice parts. I've updated his article. NawlinWiki 18:33, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, per nom.--Isotope23 16:15, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom - CrazyRussian talk/email 16:30, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. *drew 16:41, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per olivier. WP:NOT paper and this can provide verfiable, useful information for people who look up Saving Private Ryan. --Daniel Olsen 18:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

Comment - the issue here isn't verifiability, usefulness, or notability. The issue is why should this exist as an article independent of the Saving Private Ryan one? Cast lists belong on film article pages. See Revenge of the Sith for an example. Furthermore, the cast list need not include all the actors for the film, necessarily - only the ones which are considered notable enough for an encyclopedia entry. Girolamo Savonarola 20:35, 17 August 2006 (UTC)

• delete or merge The cast does not require a separate article. This information should most logically be located in the article for the film. If this information is not currently there, then a merge is warranted. Otherwise, delete, because we don't need to duplicate information just for the sole purpose of having another article. will381796 20:14, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Recury 20:19, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete or merge per will381796. Jacqui^★ 21:18, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge or delete. The only possible reason for merging is the precedent set by Revenge of the Sith. Srose (talk) 21:23, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom AdamSmithee 22:00, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Notable actors and/or major characters are already listed on the movie article; no need to list every bit character and extra that appeared in it. –NeoChaosX (talk | contribs) 23:25, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. All the major stars are already mentioned in the main article, all the minor ones are superfluous. Raggaga 23:32, 17 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Prolog 00:07, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. --TM 01:24, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The fact that imdb has the info is irrelevant. The info itself is just not generally relevant enough to justify a page on the Wikipedia. Jun-Dai 02:08, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Merge — to Saving Private Ryan. The list is useful and can be perfectly fine here, just put it in the right place. —— Eagle (ask me for help) 07:46, 18 August 2006 (UTC)
• Obvious merge/redirect per Girolamo Savonarola. --CharlotteWebb 11:59, 22 August 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.