Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Carlos Prio-Touzet

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The result was nomination withdrawn. -- moe.RON Let's talk | done 19:31, 9 July 2007 (UTC) (non-admin closure)

[edit] Carlos Prio-Touzet

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Non-Notable Cuban architect Callelinea 17:13, 3 July 2007 (UTC) I resind my nomination. Callelinea 21:28, 8 July 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete Extraordinary assertions require extraordinary evidence. There are no independent references at all. Shalom Hello 17:41, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete Almost looks like advertising for him and his company. Angus Lepper(T, C, D) 18:19, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete, no claims of notability. Corvus cornix 22:43, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, award willing architect and has 12 sources. Callelinea 19:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: can you dig out details on the award(s) won by Carlos? What award(s)? Given by who? When? For what?? That'll go a long way towards establishing notability. Tabercil 19:47, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • I did so. In article. 2005 and 2006 given by local AIA and state AIA. Callelinea 20:10, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep Well sourced, clearly (to me) notable. Plus, being the son of a President tends to also confer notability. AKRadeckiSpeaketh 00:49, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Architecture-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 13:28, 7 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete nn individual related to notable persons. Bigdaddy1981 21:13, 8 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep: Seems to be notable enough - son of a former President. Seems pretty well sourced. takethemud 02:11, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, especially notable for the child of a president, what have Chelsea Clinton or Brahim Deby or any of the myriad Kennedys they keep pumping out really done on this level? Sounds like a success on his own terms. Chris 04:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment-I do find it weird that the primary author of the article was the one that put it up for AfD, what's the logic there? Chris 04:44, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment: Umm actually folks, Carlos being the son of a former President of Cuba does not by itself create notability; the problem with that argument is that notability is not inheritable. Tabercil 05:01, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • If notability is not inherited, why do all First Ladies get an article in Wikipedia? As an example Jane Appleton Pierce, what did she do in her life that made her notable? I would like to say that maybe notability is not technically inhertable but it gives one a big push in that direction. Mr. Prio-Touzet, has a father that is notable, and he is an award-winning architect that has built buildings around the world, I think that more then makes him notable, plus the article has references and I the nominator of this article for AfD have resinded my nomination. Callelinea 13:05, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment as nominator has withdrawn the nomination could someone please close this AFD. Davewild 07:06, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete The awards would make him notable if they were national rather than local. --Mcginnly | Natter 09:03, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • One of the awards is from the State AIA, so he is more then just local, in addition he has designed buildings world-wide. Callelinea 12:42, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete I happen to disagree with Wikipedia policy in the respect of "notability is not inheritable." I happen to feel that in many respects, notability most certainly is inheritable. Chelsea Clinton, for one, is an entirely unremarkable person were she not the daughter of a former U.S. president. However, I don't set Wikipedia policy, I only interpret if for what it is. According to WP:NOTINHERITED, the subject is not notable. And without his heritage, he is just like any other architect in the world holding a non-notable local award. Trusilver 15:34, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • The AIA Florida organization is not a local group nor does it give out little non-notable awards. It is one of the largest AIA organizations in the country. I may also like to question that Miami and the AIA Miami organization is extremly prominant in the world of archutecure. Additionally, this architect is unlike any other run of the mill architect he has recieved contracts and commissions to design large multi-million dollar buildings. So to say that he got this article because of his family connection is really a travisty. Only the last line in his article mentions his father, the rest of the article and his references have to do with what he has done to make him notable. Callelinea 16:49, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • If this is true, then put it in the article. If the subject has really designed theses "large multi-million dollar buildings", then expand on it and put these structures in the article. If that information were available, that would be enough for me to change to a "keep" position. Trusilver 17:18, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
  • Its in the references and I did not want to make a large article but if that is what it will take to change your mind I wil expand the article. His awards were for one of those multi-million dollar building. Callelinea 17:36, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.