Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Car leasing

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete I am under the impression Wikibooks does not want this type of stuff either, but if I'm wrong and anyone wants to transwiki, let me know. W.marsh 15:00, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Car leasing

Contested prod. Textbook original research, reads more like a financial advice column than an encyclopedia article. VoiceOfReason 21:52, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Agree with nom. It tells the personal experience of the article's creator ("I priced one out with decent options"), but wikipedia is neither a blog, nor a free webspace provider, nor a how-to guide. Delete, but I'm willing to sway my vote if an encyclopedic article were to arise from the article as it stands. Aecis I'm too busy acting like I'm not naive 21:55, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete non-encyclopedic essay. Akradecki 21:58, 29 September 2006 (UTC)
  • The article has been revised to be non biased. Please re-review it. The example of how to calculate a lease is also given, but I can edit out the name BMW to appear even more non biased or use another car as an example. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicko (talk • contribs)
    • Comment Still reads like original research and like a how-to manual. Needs to be completely rewritten, citing sources. An encyclopedia article is essentially a summary of information from other publications and sources, not a how-to manual. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Akradecki (talk • contribs)
  • The purpose of Wikipedia is to provide information on a subject. The article has references in the bottom from which the information was collected from. Other is from reality. It is a good stepping stone for others in the industry to come on, edit, and revise if needed as information adjusts.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Sonicko (talk • contribs)

I understand your concern about offering high quality content that reflects the topic at hand, but the discussion forums offer the information on the residual and money factor that you need to see when determining how to calculate a lease. I will edit out the lease compare thing, but the others offer substantial advice on the subject. The articles that you referenced are theory and are not practical. I'm just curious if any of you have ever leased a vehicle? If you have then you would know that the material I have provided is all up to date, and accurate. I have no business editing an article on RNA, but I do know this subject.Sonicko 23:00, 29 September 2006 (UTC)

  • Comment - Your question ("have any of you ever leased a vehicle?") is a prime example of why this article doesn't fit Wikipedia's guidelines. Please read WP:NOR; your original research is not appropriate for the encyclopedia, and in general the personal experiences of editors should not form the bases for articles. As you say, there are plenty of discussion forums that offer this kind of information and practical experience. VoiceOfReason 01:25, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment So Wikipedia is used for offering info on members of bands like "Mike Shinoda" yet is unacceptable when it comes to vital information for what most people is the biggest financial decision besides buying a house? Sounds like great logic to me. I like how you judge what is valid and acceptable based upon your limited at best knowledge of the subject at hand. There are plenty of discussion forums on "Mike Shinoda" as an example as well, but I don't see that article up for deletion, or people discussing the merit of that. 24.24.212.240 17:04, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
    • Reply - If you see another article that you believe fails the notability guidelines (WP:BAND would be the appropriate one in the case of Mike Shinoda), feel absolutely free to nominate it for deletion as well. VoiceOfReason 22:08, 30 September 2006 (UTC)
  • CommentMike Shinoda is actually useful, but doesn't fit into a typical encyclopedia. This article is the same 24.24.212.240 05:51, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Reply - Once again, the guidelines are written down. The appropriate standard isn't whether an article fits into a typical encyclopedia, but whether it fits the appropriate Wikipedia policies and guidelines. Mike Shinoda meets WP:BAND. This article fails WP:NOR. VoiceOfReason 23:48, 1 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep pending extensive rewriting and wikification only. Style should be more factual and informative. LHOON 14:07, 6 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete and Transwiki to Wikibooks which is where I think "consumer how-to" stuff like this belongs. Then Rewrite from scratch The topic is encyclopedic but the article should really take a broader perspective. For example, car leasing is a relatively new phenomenon. Until the 80's (or so), car leasing was not a common means for acquiring a personal automobile. What changed to make it more attractive? Then, for a while, it became less attractive and now it is making a comeback. What was behind the drop in popularity and the current return to popularity? These issues are more in line with the encyclopedic mission of Wikipedia. --Richard 05:12, 7 October 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.