Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Captain Peacock (music)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was DELETE. JIP | Talk 08:40, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Captain Peacock (music)

Not notable band that fails WP:MUSIC guidelines for inclusion. Previous AfD for an article on this band showed a consensus that the band did not merit inclusion and the namespace was redirect to Are You Being Served?. There is no evidence that this band has become notable in the past 3 months and no need for a similar redirect this time around. Delete. youngamerican (talk) 15:56, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, yet again notability of the band is not asserted by the article. — Kimchi.sg | Talk 17:59, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Please note discussion on article's main page. I, the creator of the page, am collecting information to promote the band's signifigance. I will accept that we cannot have the main Captain Peacock page yet. However, in the future expect the band to warrant such a page. Finally, please note that this is a biased and personal grudge against the band from previous arguments over the main Captain Peacock page. User:BodyHeat 01:35 p.m. CST, 27 March 2006 (CST)

I have found plenty of examples of notability meeting Wikipedia's standards, and I will be removing the tag. Thank you. User:BodyHeat 01:40 CST, 27 March 2006 (CST)

Do not remove the AfD tag until this discussion has been closed by an admin. You would do better by pointing out how this band deserves inclusion rather than assuming bad faith of other editors and ignoring wikipedia processes. youngamerican (talk) 19:45, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, nn. Note that the only requirement for selling your book on amazon is sending in one or two copies and having an ISBN. I assume the requirements for music are the similar. --W(t) 19:51, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Youngamerican, please refrain from telling me what I would, "do better," by.

Furthermore, you are and have violated Wikiquette many times, especially: Please be familiar with the policies of not biting the newcomers, Wikiquette, no personal attacks, civility, and assume good faith before making a recommendation as to whether the article should be deleted or not, or making a comment.

Finally, the band, Captain Peacock (music) contains at least one member who was once a part of or later joined a band that is otherwise notable; note that it is often most appropriate to use redirects in place of articles on side projects, early bands and such; and, a member has gone on an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one large or medium-sized country[1], reported in notable and verifiable sources.

User:BodyHeat 01:54 CST, 27 March 2006 (CST)

Please don't be accusatory. You were very polite with me, so I know that you can make a calm argument about this.

Could you cite your sources for the member who was once a part of a notable band? Singing with Norah Jones in college doesn't quite cut it, I think, because she is an independent singer, not a band. Also, the requirement is, I believe, that the band has gone on a international/national concert tour, not just one member. Sorry.

Hbackman 23:50, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

• Comment. I can assure you that I harbor no ill feelings towards you or the band. Thusfar, however, the band has not yet done anything to merit inclusion YET. They seem to be on the right track, however and will likely soon be notable enough for wikipedia. When they do meet one of the notability guidelines for a band, I will gladly support the inclusion of their article and contribute by way of copyediting, syntax, etc. Until then, they are just not ready. youngamerican (talk) 20:08, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete I'd say a band with only one EP out qualifies as not notable. Stev0 21:37, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Doesn't matter how many EP's, they fulfill plenty of the requirements, including the band owns the U.S. trademark and copyright to the name. This is logic people. User:BodyHeat
  • Comment. Something being copyrighted in the US is not a notability guideline at Wikipedia. If you think it should be, you can discuss it at Wikipedia:Village Pump. youngamerican (talk) 13:09, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. If a band that doesn't even have an album out is "notable", how WOULD you define a non-notable band? Stev0 16:22, 28 March 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Band is presently not notable. Asserts forthcoming record and tour but WP is not a crystal ball. I suggest the creator userfy the content to facilitate recreation if and when the band actually goes on tour. Thatcher131 19:43, 30 March 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment. Not a bad idea. The user is new, and, if deleted, may require help in userfying from one of us or the closing admin. youngamerican (talk) 19:55, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

I changed my mind. Userfication might encourage premature recreation, as wikipedia is not a crystal ball (while they seem to be on the right track, there is no sure promise that this band will become notable soon or ever). youngamerican (talk) 15:18, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Moe ε 02:27, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.