Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cap'n Jaspers (2nd nomination)

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The result was Delete, numerous questions of notability, and hinting at notability doesn't do it. ~Kylu (u|t) 02:15, 8 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cap'n Jaspers

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Appears to be a local restaurant with nothing to establish or even assert notability. Totally unsourced, and this appears to be a single establishment and not a chain. Opted not to speedy since it has been here before. Coredesat 23:53, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

• Keep. Yes, it's unsourced, but sources do exist; google reports over a thousand hits. Yes, the article currently has no assertion of notability, but the restaurant's founder seems notable enough, at least locally (see this obituary) - more notable than the thousands of high schools we have articles about. The criteria for inclusion in Wikipedia exist. That they aren't yet in the article isn't a basis for deletion. -Amatulic 00:11, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
  • Then write an article on the founder; if the founder is notable, it doesn't confer notability to the establishment. Also, WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. --Coredesat 00:15, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
    • Looking at several google links, it appears that the restaurant is a major source of the founder's notability, and is a notable fixture in its locale. The article needs improvement, not deletion. Improvement will take time because the article's contributors seem to edit it rarely, so this AfD won't hurry up the process unless you wish to do the work. -Amatulic 00:21, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
      • Do you have sources that suggest this meets WP:ORG, then? That's the real question here. At best this would be merged to an article on the founder. --Coredesat 00:26, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
        • I haven't looked specifically for such sources; I only just found out about this article. The sources I see indicate that Cap'n Jasper's is the central gathering place in Plymouth (the Washington Post hints at it), and apparently it's a sort of historical site in the middle of an historical district of Plymouth, although the sources I've found so far are blogs and tourist information. There are strong assertions of notability here, written by a local, but not sure how acceptable that source would be. -Amatulic 02:01, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete, unless some sources can be found. I'll keep an open mind on this. Realkyhick 00:37, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete unless sources are added. Oysterguitarist 00:51, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete The amount of Google hits has nothing to do with Notability, it is just a common misconception. Please read WP:GHITS As for the two article that Amatulic Pointed out, one of them is not credible, and the washington post article has nothing to do with the place, that is just where the interview seems to be taking place. Gorkymalorki 02:48, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable local restaurant. Keb25 13:31, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 23:28, 3 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Nice restaurant, great seafood no doubt, but do we need a Wikipedia article about every nice place to go out to eat? Mandsford 18:29, 4 August 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. Notability highly questionable. Perhaps better for Wikitravel? Stifle (talk) 14:05, 6 August 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.