Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Camp Miriam (2nd nomination)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Mailer Diablo 16:01, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Camp Miriam

• Delete "Camp Miriam" gets only 657 Google hits (a few of which, with two common words put together, could be false positives), the article has little information, and the external links are either diferent parts of the camp web site or freespace pages. -- Kicking222 03:04, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, notability not demonstrated.--Peta 04:10, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Article does not establish notability. Dr Zak 04:41, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, notable enough, as mentioned by Jayjg in previous Afd, this Canadian camp is almost 60 years old, associated with an international movement, member of Foundation for Jewish Camping as one of 7 Habonim Dror camps [1], mentioned in The Canadian Jewish News. --MPerel ^{( talk | contrib)} 10:46, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep for the same reasons as the other articles about this topic. Alithien 12:13, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as per MPerel. It is also an important part of the History of the Jews in Canada. IZAK 12:54, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep --Terence Ong 13:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - does not establish notability. --Tom 13:27, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Notability not established. JFW | T@lk 14:07, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete no evidence this camp is distinguishable from any other summer camp.--Isotope23 17:06, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. As before. This Canadian camp is almost 60 years old, associated with an international movement, member of Foundation for Jewish Camping as one of 7 Habonim Dror camps [2], mentioned in The Canadian Jewish News, certainly as notable as many of the elementary schools listed on Wikipedia and camps listed in Category:Summer camps, such as Camp takajo or Woodward Camp, or indeed almost any of the camps in that category, almost all of which are referenced at best by a link to the camp's website. Jayjg ^(talk) 20:02, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete per Kicking. The guidelines for notability have, I find, nothing to do with how old an institution is or its tenuous association with international movements. RGTraynor 20:44, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
  • What are the "guidelines for notability" regarding summer camps? Where are they found? Jayjg ^(talk) 21:36, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
    • Well, that's an interesting question, especially since it is up to article creators to demonstrate notability. For my money, though, 85 unique Google hits doesn't manage it. RGTraynor 02:20, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
      • Actually it gets 673 Google hits. "Unique Google hits" is a bogus measure, since Google's algorithm automatically suppresses results so as to ensure no search returns more than 1000 hits. In any event, you seem to be suggesting deletion based on no particular policy. Jayjg ^(talk) 02:41, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable. Ted 22:50, 22 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. --Shlomke 03:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. The friendships and experiences from summer camp stay with some people all their lives. TruthbringerToronto 04:29, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. SlimVirgin ^(talk) 22:32, 23 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- I already voted to keep this before, I vote so again -- thank you, DR., for wasting my time by making me do this over and over... Rooster613rooster613Rooster613 01:49, 24 May 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Camp Miriam plays a huge role in the economies of Gabriola Island and Nanaimo, BC.
• Delete. Two sentences do not a Wikipedia article make. If it's intended to be a stub, it should be indicated so... or better yet, expanded. B.Wind 12:34, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.