Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calvary Evangelical Church, Brighton

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Please defer merge related discussion to article talk. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 06:31, 20 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calvary Evangelical Church, Brighton

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Completely non-notable --Vox Humana 8' 13:55, 12 June 2007 (UTC)

  • Delete - google.co.uk returns 326 hits, and is very unlikely to have been the subject of multiple non-trivial reliable sources. Article only relies on its own website as a source. Non-notable.-h i s s p a c e r e s e a r c h 14:33, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, the building itself is of interest, both architecturally and as a social phenomenon (urban evangelism in the 19th century), article as it stands is weak though and needs a lot of work. DuncanHill 14:48, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep, per DuncanHill--Ispy1981 15:38, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletions. -- -- pb30<talk> 15:59, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep building is significant and there appears to be an interesting religious history here too. The details of the present congregation should be kept to a minimum.--Docg 21:37, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep -- although I wonder whether this meets WP:COI I think it passes the WP:POKEMON test. Knowing what churches exist around the world MAY be encyclopedic. Perhaps this article could be merged into an article about churches in Brighton to include The 11th Century St. Nicholas Church, St. Bartholomew's, and the Church of St. Peter. MPS 21:46, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep, seems to be notable, although the article should include sources not only from their website. Jacek Kendysz 23:21, 12 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Delete there is no reason for a general encyclopedia to list all the churches around the world, just the notable ones, but only under the "all the churches" criterion could this possibly be considered encyclopedic. It's in Victorian building, like many UK urban churches, its named after Calvary, they hold sunday school and prayer meetings. Sometimes they have outside speakers. Nobody from outside the city though, has the least idea they exist. DGG 02:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Christianity-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 09:48, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment - MPS makes an interesting suggestion - but I would suggest that the better-known and more historic Brighton churches, such as St. Peter's or St. Paul's really do justify seperate articles. However, I would support something along the lines of what is done on major band pages, where a little info is included on each album, but there is a "Main Article: Album Name" link - for those, read Churches of Brighton, with a little info on each church and a "Main Article: Church of St. Name". Would this be workable or appropriate?--Vox Humana 8' 14:22, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Comment Vox Humana 8's suggestion sounds good to me - would combine breadth of coverage in the main article, with depth in articles for the major churches in the City. DuncanHill 14:28, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge as per Vox's suggestion, providing someone is willing to write such an article. Without third party sources, for which I am seeing none, this Church does not warrant an article of its own. J Milburn 16:23, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak Keep - It seems rather an ordinary church. The Railway Mission aspect may confer slight notability. However the rest is merely a summary of the church website, without any other external source. Peterkingiron 23:13, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Keep per Doc glasgow, the church appears to be notable in an encyclopedic sense. Yamaguchi先生 04:00, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Merge as Vox has suggested to the newly created Churches of Brighton. I've found little of note about the church except the building. John Vandenberg 05:45, 20 June 2007 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.