Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calvary Church (Naperville, Illinois)

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The result was delete. Mackensen (talk) 21:49, 30 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Calvary Church (Naperville, Illinois)

Calvary Church (Naperville, Illinois) (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)

A local church, no evidence of notability. There are many churches claiming this sort of attendance, some evidence of notability other than size should be offered (political influence, getting in the news etc.), and there is none. Google search shows no evidence of news coverage or assertions of influence, even in evo christian circles Lurker ^oi! 14:04, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Fails to establish notability, reads like an advertisement. Obvious Original Research. Canadian-Bacon ^{t c} 15:52, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

So clean it up--Doc^g 23:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete can't have every church. ReverendG 23:07, 24 November 2006 (UTC)

Why not? --Doc^g 23:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)

• Delete. Vanispamcruftisement (if you don't like 'jargon', click on the link; I get tired of saying the same thing all the time, and it's always the same issues anyway). The Crying Orc 11:03, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Comment I've started a page on notability guidelines for local churches. You can join the discussion here: Wikipedia:Notability (local churches and other religious congregations) Lurker ^oi! 11:55, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep more notable that most schools. Clean it up. --Doc^g 23:08, 25 November 2006 (UTC)
  • That it's a church? Churches in that area are a dime a dozen, as they are very commonplace. Delete, just non-notable without good external sources, which are nowhere to be found. Shin'ou's TTV (Futaba|Masago|Kotobuki) 03:31, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
    • But are churches of that size commonplace in that area? I can say from personal experience: No, so I vote "keep" (below).Realkyhick 06:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but clean up. Material reads like it came from the church web site. Realkyhick 06:21, 27 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Churches are not inherently notable, and this particular church has no claims to notability. Also, Doc, the burden of proof is on those who want to keep the article. It is not the job of the nominator or the 'voters' to 'clean it up' in order to make it more likely to be kept. If you feel strongly about it then you should attempt to clean it and establish notability, as it stand now however such requirements don't seem to have been met. --The Way 07:35, 26 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Does not make a case for notability. I suspect that nothing would be lost if this was deleted and recreated if the church becomes notable. Note that all schools are not being kept and all churches should not be kept. Vegaswikian 07:44, 28 November 2006 (UTC)
• Merge with Naperville, Illinois. Sure, it might not make sense to keep all churches, but we can always relocate the information to the article on the parent community. JYolkowski // talk 00:24, 29 November 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as NN. The assertion that this church is more notable than most schools is irrelevant, as most schools ( including, sadly, most of the schools covered by Wikipedia ) are also non-notable. Nice use of specious logic, though ! WMMartin 17:40, 29 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.