Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Calisota

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge and redirect to Duckburg. It's a notable place but it's almost always used in conjunction with Duckburg, so merging the two is appropriate. - KrakatoaKatie 00:36, 10 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Calisota

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This article asserts no notability through reliable sources, and as such is just an in-universe repetition of plot elements from the Ducktales TV show articles. As such, this material is not appropriate for the encyclopedia, is also entirely duplicative and can be safely deleted. Judgesurreal777 03:44, 2 December 2007 (UTC)

• Delete: Not notable. - Rjd0060 04:26, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Per Nom. Twenty Years 15:40, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
• I say either keep (but remove the fanon speculation), because it is a fairly notable fictional location, or redirect to Duckburg because the only times the Calisota name is used is when an exact location is needed for that fictional city.96T 17:24, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to Duckburg, since it's most used when one sees a Duckburg address. This is a bigger thing than DuckTales, though... it's been used in 50+ years of comic books. Pinball22 17:44, 3 December 2007 (UTC)
• Keep This is a notable setting for a huge number of extremely popular and culturally important comic books and animations, in many languages for over half a century. Moheroy 04:41, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

If that is true, please produce some referencing on the topic, such as how it was created. Judgesurreal777 17:05, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Eh, "how it was created"? Already mentioned in the article (Carl Barks, in story "The Gilded Man"). It's mentioned in a large number of stories. One of the high-profile examples is Don Rosa's seminal, award-winning, mind-blowing The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck which also places it on map. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 20:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm afraid you'll need a lot more than that. Take a look at this World of Final Fantasy VIII, which shows the direction we are going. If we can find a lot of that kind of information, we have a notable article, and vica versa. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:46, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Your point is that a fictional world of one video game can be kept. Good. In that case, a fictional location introduced in 1952 and used in God-knows-how-many Donald Duck stories is really hecking darn keepable. Besides, quantity of information available has no bearing on whether or not the thing can be kept or not; if there's not enough material but the topic is notable, it's keepable as a short article or merged. Not everything in Wikipedia has to have kilobytes of fan-ooglery. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 22:49, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

Plus, one could argue the sources in World of Final Fantasy VIII suck; most of them are from one game, some have nothing at all to do with the topic but rather back up claims about the game (the entirety of second paragraph which is hopelessly out of place anyway), and there's just a few developer interviews and such. Eh... I don't get the point. You could comb through decades of Disney comics and come up with just as gigantesque article - with multiple primary sources to boot. --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 22:57, 5 December 2007 (UTC)

• Keep notable concept not just in DuckTales but all Uncle Scrooge material. Pretty much everything invented by Carl Barks is automatically notable enough for at least a mention somewhere, so at worst case, Merge to Duckburg. =) --wwwwolf (barks/growls) 20:10, 4 December 2007 (UTC)
• It could also be mentioned that both a popular Disney comics website and a comic book store are named after Calisota. "Calisota" also returns three hits at Google Scholar. 96T 20:48, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

So really, that is a large amount of nothing. You cant insinuate or suggest there are references, you actually have to provide them. Judgesurreal777 (talk) 21:26, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

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