Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/California Drivers Handbook

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was 1, 2, 3....uhhhh, no consensus. (6d 54%, 1k, 3m, 1r) - Mailer Diablo 15:15, 5 November 2005 (UTC)

[edit] California Drivers Handbook

Delete, becuase seems irrelevant as its own article. There is a page for Department of Motor Vehicles. Could merge there?? There is no page for California Department of Motor Vehicles (which might be a good place to merge this). But that raises the question Do we need articles on the DMV of every US state?—Gaff ^ταλκ 02:03, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

• Delete. I could see a page detailing the different driving laws of U.S. states. This page is unnecessary, though. Devotchka 02:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete, no potential here. Gazpacho 02:27, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete. Other than describing an error on the handbook cover, there is no real content other than that this is the drivers' handbook for California. Encyclopedic articles should give more information than could be guessed by looking at the title (see WP:CSD A3). --Metropolitan90 04:00, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete eadem. --Avery W. Krouse 07:19, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. This booklet must have been printed up in millions of copies and been read by very many. Do drivers handbooks face more serious challenges towards inclusion than other books? Sjakkalle (Check!) 08:16, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Merge as nominator suggests. Radiant_>|< 12:08, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Merge into new page California Department of Motor Vehicles per nom. Do we need articles on the DMV of every US state? Well, for as long as we're going to have formulaic articles that regurgitate census information on "cities" with fewer than 150 inhabitants, ISTM that state DsMV are well above the bar for inclusion. — Haeleth Talk 14:05, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• weak delete I know that Wikipedia isn't paper, but still... Roodog2k (Hello there!) 18:37, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Delete not encyclopedic - why would anyone come here looking for that? Tedernst 21:02, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to driver's license, and make sure there's a brief mention of drivers' handbooks in general in that article. - A Man In Black (conspire | past ops) 22:46, 29 October 2005 (UTC)
• Merge per Haeleth, except to note that, while we may not need an article on every state's DMV, the California DMM is the "grandaddy of them all" in the senses that it is the source of nearly all DMV jokes, and that pop-culture calls the DMV "the DMV" no matter what the actual agency is in the state (e.g., "PennDOT" in PA is used almost exclusively to refer to the (alleged) highway maintenance functions, while the licensure agency is usually referred to as DMV despite the utter lack of any such Department in that Commonwealth). --Kgf0 23:22, 4 November 2005 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.