Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Caitian

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Merge to List of Star Trek races, though there's almost nothing to merge. Cúchullain ^t/c 19:48, 11 September 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Caitian

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No (assertion of) real-world notability and no reliable secondary sources. Had redirected to most notable appearance of this species (e.g. a specific character) per practice with dozens of other Star Trek-related ship, planet, species, character, etc. articles but User:Honeymane objects. No larger List of... to merge info. EEMeltonIV 03:20, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment Not so; List of Star Trek races? EEMeltonIV, you know this isn't the way to solve debates between users, I was merely asking you take the time to discuss the idea of redirecting or merge on the page, something you didn't even attempt to do. --Honeymane_{Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam} 03:50, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

My bad missing the List of... -- I searched for "species" instead and came up dry. Anyhow, the content in the AfDed article is uncited non-notable plot summary. I've provided a link to the character -- which itself may not even meet notability -- in the List of... The content at Caitian is trivia that should be deleted. --EEMeltonIV 04:09, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

This nomination is toeing the line of being in bad faith, And the notability of M'Ress is not being discussing here. I'd suggest merging it with the list, or perhaps copying the information from memory alpha, to fill out the article. The species has, appearently appeared in Star Trek IV, something not noted by the current article. --Honeymane_{Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam} 04:22, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

MA does not have a compatible license. Even if it did, again, there's no notability, and MA itself is not a reliable source. The thing's appearance in Star Trek IV is your own original research. --EEMeltonIV 05:04, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

Well, no, not really, the Star Trek IV Sourcebook update names the race (as depicted in the movie) as caitian, so it's not WP:OR--Honeymane_{Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam} 06:46, 4 September 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per lack of real world coverage for this fictional race Corpx 04:47, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge (with List of races) Or keep However, I still feel this is a bad-faith nomination for deletion. --Honeymane_{Heghlu meH QaQ jajvam} 07:02, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to List of Star Trek races if it can be reliably sourced ("Articles and posts on Wikipedia or other open wikis should never be used as third-party sources." WP:V). Otherwise, delete. Jakew 11:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Science fiction-related deletions. -- the wub "?!" 14:28, 4 September 2007 (UTC)
• Merge to List of Star Trek races as stated above, but again, only if it can be reliably sources. If not then delete. Ejfetters 05:52, 9 September 2007 (UTC)

• Comment - Since 2005, the closest the stub's come to having a reliable source is mention of a Lincoln Enterprise's snippet. Google search yields barely even any in-universe Star Trek hits; I doubt there's anything substantial/substantiating out there for any sort of notability. --EEMeltonIV 04:59, 10 September 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.