Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Cabinteely Football Club

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Peacent 02:45, 3 August 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Cabinteely Football Club

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Deleted after PROD request, but later contested by an IP user. A previous short discussion on the Football WikiProject showed the article would hardly meet the notability criterions. Have your say. Angelo 02:17, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

• This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of football (soccer) related deletions. Angelo 02:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete This appears to be a football club that caters for children from age 5 to 18 with also a senior ladies team. It is a large club with 700 members running 38 teams. It runs coaching events, competitions, organises overseas tours and hosts visiting teams from abroad. This is gleaned from their website. In summary then, this appears to be a well organised, very successful, well regarded community football club for young people. In terms of meeting Wikipedia's criteria for notability and thus inclusion in Wikipedia, independent sources to allow notability to be verified and significant coverage are required. I can find only one independent source about the club, an article by the FAI in the match programme for the Ireland v Sweden on 01-03-06[1] (hosted on the club website). There appears to be no other source which directly address the club nor is there significant coverage. Thus I fall on the side of delete on the basis that the club does not meet Wikipedia's requirements for notability. --Malcolmxl5 03:56, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

P.S. Apologies for the length of this but as the article was deleted and restored, I thought it best to write at length rather than say 'per nom'! --Malcolmxl5 03:59, 29 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per the discussion at Football WikiProject (who are people well situated to find reliable sources, if they exist), Malcomx15's research above, and my own check of Google, which shows nothing for news or books, and no web links showing multiple, independent reliable sources significantly treating the subject. I did find a corporate sponsor detailing their involvement in an annual tournament [2]. The fact that the article was deleted and restored (by me) is quite irrelevant. That was not on the merits; see my message to the requestor noting problems with the article, including the wholesale copyvio in its history.--Fuhghettaboutit 06:10, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete. It's great these kids are getting into sports, but this article doesn't demonstrate any notability for the team. Sorry. --Dennis The Tiger (Rawr and stuff) 17:39, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
• Possible keep with major cleanup - the information on the page is well out of date. Cabinteely have joined the Leinster Senior League, which is effectively Level 3 in the Republic of Ireland in the Saturday Section Premier Division. I don't know enough as to the relative merits and strengths of the Saturday and Sunday Sections or the other division names to prove one way or the other that the division they have entered is Level 3 or not. - fchd 10:47, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Comment There are 20+ divisions in the Leinster Senior League. The order is, I think, the 'Senior' divisions, the 'Major' divisions and then the 'Premier', etc, divisions, which are 'junior' level of football, i.e. for youth teams. I stand to be corrected of course but it seems to me that the 'Premier' is way, way down in terms of 'levels'. --Malcolmxl5 19:10, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

If that is the case, I have no problem with a delete then. - fchd 19:51, 31 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete - no evidence to meet WP:N; plays at an insuffiently high level. TerriersFan 20:30, 30 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete Non notable. I didn't think there was a level three in Ireland.

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