Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buttrock

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was no consensus. Kept without prejudice against a future merger, provided consensus is gathered for such a merge. As there are no binding decisions on Wikipedia, please do not cite this AfD to buttress an argument for or against a future merge. Johnleemk | Talk 13:57, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buttrock

non notable, seldom used word Kungfu Adam ^(talk) 23:40, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

• Comment I don't have an opinion yet on this one either way, but it's not the obvious deletion candidate you'd expect from the name. Google gets a lot of references, including ones from music journalists. If somebody with strong domain knowledge can say whether this crosses the notability threshhold, that'd be great. -William Pietri 23:48, 1 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge into Hair metal. I believe the term is synonymous with hair metal (or is at least an offshoot of it) and should be mentioned there. I have actually heard the word used many times, by a number of different sorts of people. (Hearsay is not a reference per se, but it's just a note.) - Zepheus 00:09, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Non-notable, ill-defined, and seriously lacking a NPOV. GentlemanGhost 00:32, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete For example, Metallica turned to buttrock with the Black album because of its horrid, poorly written ballads. Uh huh. If someone wants to create a good article about this subject that demonstrates notability and is NPOV, nothing is stopping them from doing so, but there is nothing salvagable here beyond a dictionary definition of a non-notable WP:NEO BigDT 01:00, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, or a redirect Cock rock which I believe is a better synonym than hair metal.--Peta 03:56, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Really doesn't appear to have much relevance nowadays, and doesn't seem like something that could be expanded into a really great article. --Alan 04:29, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge should redirect to glam metal. This term seems near ubiquitous around where I live (east coast), and as almost as well understood as 'hair metal'. As someone who gets paid to write about music from time to time, I'd guess "buttrock" is a better understood term than "glam metal", among the general public if not among music journalists. However, it doesn't need a seperate articleMichaelwsherman 09:51, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and redirect, per Michaelwsherman, into Glam Metal perhaps as more common spelling "butt rock". This is used all over alternative and student papers and was used in mainstream papers twice [1] [2] this month. --William Pietri 14:25, 2 June 2006 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete Likeminded people and I will expand this article and make it a proud NPOV wiki aticle. Their are multiple meanings of the word Buttrock is the best way I can explain it. I started the page and people are adding to it like it means Hair Metal but it doesn't. I grew up in the Pacific Northwest (Portland) and Buttrock is an important word/concept for people here. I imagine it served a similar purpose in the rest of the US. When reminiscing about the 80's we would affenctionately call the soft metal songs that we like Buttrock. It's not just a local custom or a dictionary definition. The concept needs to be explored and the Buttrocker bands need to be delineated. These are the bands that at first glance are extremely cheesy but after a more thorough investigation are true pioneers of pop music. You know: Poison, Warrant (to a lesser degree), and AC/DC. - June 4, 2006 - User:Peregrinefisher
• Keep --on condition that it is fixed. It's a real genre, or at least a real term for a genre, but the article itself is trash. It could conceivably be useful, but not as it is now. Fearwig 23:21, 4 June 2006 (UTC)
• Keep -- Seems to be in common usage in the Seattle area. Artw 05:08, 7 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.