Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bushmaster Knock-Off

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus to delete. I think the complaint about this being spam has been addressed. The article may have further issues, but unless deletion is the remedy, that can be worked out via discussion and editing and a possible {{mergeto}} tag. Mangojuice^talk 19:10, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bushmaster Knock-Off

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Reads like a product flyer, sourced to a manufactuerer's site and a fan forum, no citation indicating notability. I don't see why this particular model of paintball gun is notable, why would not a general article on paintball guns be sufficient. DES ^(talk) 20:34, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

• Delete as per my nom. DES ^(talk) 20:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
  • Note that this article was speedy tagged and the tag was removed, with some discussion on its talk page. Note also that a previous version of this article was speedy-deleted as "spam". DES ^(talk) 20:36, 24 April 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per nom. Dismas|^(talk) 21:26, 24 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep or Merge Possable relayable source out there.

Im the newest member of the wiki paintball project, and well im focusing on finding sources for paintball articles that dont have sources. If you will permit i want to find a relyable source for this article so if you please give me by the end of today to find one it will be much appreciated. if i cannot find a relyable source then my descision will be changed. User:Maverick423 If It Looks Good Nuke It 16:44, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Delete or merge cannot find sources as per my above statement my desision has changed. User:Maverick423 If It Looks Good Nuke It 13:20, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

Keep My final decision. Cleaned up the article fixed ad sounding paragraphs and corrected some images along with the help of Ip person and the canadian. Article still lacks some sources but they can be searched for. User:Maverick423 If It Looks Good Nuke It 14:35, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

Comment This article really does need multiple non-trivial sources to prove this isn't original research or spam. ŞůṜīΣĻ¹98¹^Speak 16:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment im the original creator of this site , and mavericks i really doubt you will find sources to this article. I already know where i got all the information to write this so u dont need sources. I just dint post up all the sites where i obtained the information because wiki doesnt want to many links and sites. thanx for the help BKO THECANADIAN 19:24, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

comment a article may have as many sources as required to properly source and explain the topic. the exeptions are Popupsites, Advertisement sites, sites with the only intention to sell items, or sites that lead to virus infected data. other then that if it has the information then it should be ok. User:Maverick423 If It Looks Good Nuke It 19:30, 26 April 2007 (UTC)

• Comment How is this read like a product flyer... it goes into great detail about how every part works.. it has a timeline how it changed and also was dicontinued so what exactly do u expect me to sell???????? I created this page about this specific marker because just paintball gun doesnt go into specifics... PAINTBALL GUNS are very diferent between eachother some are open bolt , spool valve , ram operated.. its diferent. This article is only to educate and help people on this specific marker; also the notability part.. this is a distinct gun , it not like every other gun. It is really a gun that got the whole icd company started and i really dont understand how this gun wouldnt be aloud if the Promaster or ICD freestyle would be!!BKO THECANADIAN 19:29, 25 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment now that the article is being cleaned up we should post pone the deletion. i will help in the clean up process if you all will give us some time. User:Maverick423 If It Looks Good Nuke It 02:55, 28 April 2007 (UTC)

Comment I seem to be a little stuck on what to do next can anyone point anything else out that needs to be corrected? User:Maverick423 If It Looks Good Nuke It 17:14, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

keep - seems like a very good article. I also feel that in the original argument for deletion, the statement "I don't see why this particular model of paintball gun is notable, why would not a general article on paintball guns be sufficient" is a bit dangerous - should we delete every Simpson's episode article? Every article on every other TV show? As it stands, it is a device, it has been sold, that seems to provide some notability. Addition of sources would be very nice, though. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 21:00, 30 April 2007 (UTC)

• Merge into Bushmaster 2000. First of all, I am deeply troubled by the opening: "The ICD BKO (rumored to stand for Bushmaster Knock-Off) is part of the B2K (Bushmaster 2000) series...". We have an article named, by non-reliable sources, after a rumor - which seems terribly unencyclopedic and has got to be in violation of several wiki-policies and/or guidelines. If it is "part of the ... Bushmaster 2000 series", then it belongs there. At the very least, the article MUST be renamed to BKO (except that is already an airport article) or Bushmaster BKO; otherwise the entire premise of the name is totally speculative and cannot be allowed. If the Bushmaster brand marketing representatives (or Indian Creek Designs) admits that BKO means "Bushmaster Knock-Off", which would seem highly unlikely, then we have an encyclopedic name. Otherwise there is no way this can stand as is. --T-dot (Talk | contribs) 18:06, 1 May 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.