Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bumageddon: The Final Pongflict

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. There is significant consensus for this when you count the keeps and merges together, but no clear idea of how exactly it should be merged. But that can be worked out by ordinary discussion, no need to come to a verdict now. Mangojuicetalk 14:53, 1 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bumageddon: The Final Pongflict

This book is not notable. It won no prizes, it started no literary or cultural movement, and apparently even in Australia it is not well-known. Like its predesessor The Day My Bum Went Psycho it is nothing special. Wikipedia is not a fan-space for every book published. Bejnar 05:57, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete per nom. Matlock would not be impressed. Merge per discussion below. Though Matlock is still unimpressed. Fagstein 07:08, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Why do they bother? BTLizard 09:22, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete but someone should write something about this book into The Day My Bum Went Psycho, which is up for deletion above. This article is not really suitable to be merged but the book deserves a small writeup on the aforementioned page. James086 Talk | Contribs 13:18, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge Could be mentioned in article about author.Gobawoo 16:29, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge into article about the author or the The Day My Bum Went Psycho. Alpharigel 20:01, 20 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep. This book like its predecessors was a best seller in Australia. A Google News Archive search shows that there are reliable sources available about this book see [1] Alternatively, merge with Andy Griffiths or develop a page on his Bum series which was a trilogy consisting of this, The Day My Bum Went Psycho and Zombie Bums From Uranus. [2] Capitalistroadster 00:28, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep (or merge) sufficient news coverage and sales to be notable. I hope that the use of scatology, or the target age of the audience, hasn't influenced people's opinions on notability. Andjam 00:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep There is noone in Australia who hasn't heard of these books. Raffles mk 06:11, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment, except me, obviously. Lankiveil 12:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC).
    • How?? This series of books has been heavily promoted in pretty much every bookshop in Australia for decades. Now that TDMBWP has been kept, perhaps WP:POKEMON applies. Raffles mk 13:25, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong Keep, well known sequel to two highly known children's books. --badlydrawnjeff talk 12:53, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge, book is not notable enough to have it's own article, but maybe some of this material could be added to an article on the author. Lankiveil 12:54, 21 October 2006 (UTC).
  • Delete, don't merge. This book is not notable enough to keep (unlike) The Day My Bum Went Psycho. And frankly, there's nothing there to merge. Worth a redirect to The Day My Bum Went Psycho or to Andy Griffiths. Regards, Ben Aveling 11:30, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions. -- Longhair\talk 23:38, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Arbusto 21:32, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep debuted at #9 on the New York Times bestseller list (as Butt Wars: The Final Conflict), shortlisted for the Australia Children's Choice awards (which haven't been presented yet). I think this is notable enough on its own, but would not object to a merged article on Griffith's "Bum Trilogy". --Canley 01:27, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete not notable Mukadderat 17:42, 23 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep as it's a notable book. Maybe merge it, but don't delete. - Lex 16:00, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Strong keep - as per Canley. JROBBO 03:21, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge merge article into one on Griffith's "Bum Trilogy", per Canley Bejnar 17:49, 27 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep or merge to article on trilogy. For those Australians who haven't heard of the book, I think they need to look at their own demographic profile. Have you heard of any children's books (other than Harry Potter) - is it because you have little to do with children? If you are over 12 or have no children yourself, please check with some (Australian) friends or relatives who are or have children before commenting on Australian children's literature topics or perhaps qualify your response. More or less on the same line as 'i've never heard of this', from computer geeks on the other side of the world isn't a good criteria for deletion at AfD for Louise Crisp [3] The "I never heard of this" argument needs to be tested against, are you in a position to comment, with respect nationality would probably not be enough. For people on the other side of the world, on what basis are you commenting, what research did you do?--Golden Wattle talk 21:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.