Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buena Regional High School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep - borders on no consensus, but that wouldn't affect the outcome. Cheers, WilyD 14:35, 9 July 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Buena Regional High School

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Does not meet WP:N criteria for notability. There are no major media mentions or notable alumni. Tatonka79 02:00, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• KEEP Wikipedia should be inclusive not exclusive.The larger Wikipedia is the best of a resource it is. One million articles is much better that one hundred thousand articles. It should be a source of information on the most trivial matters to the most important.Callelinea 03:58, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

...it would seem you haven't heard of "quality, not quantity". Either way, implying a guideline is wrong (in this case WP:N) and "should" be something else is not an argument against deletion. --Teggles 10:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletions. —Butseriouslyfolks 08:23, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per WP:N, as the article fails to even assert notability. --Butseriouslyfolks 08:26, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep, asserts notablity as public school serving a thousand pupils. Is presumably notable in the local area. LiamUK 09:43, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• That's not notability. Notability is decided by significant coverage in reliable secondary sources. --Teggles 10:24, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete per Butseriouslyfolks, article does not assert subject's notability. --ForbiddenWord 14:48, 29 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep since all high schools are notable. Noroton 00:12, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

That's a great assertion to make. Can you point to where in the article there is even the slightest demonstration of notability as laid out in WP:N? --ForbiddenWord 15:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

That's not my argument and we're not required to vote by WP:N, although if a particular article meets WP:N I'll use that as an argument for those who want to follow it. My argument is laid out in the link I provided. I suppose I should make it clear it's my opinion and nothing official. Noroton 21:38, 4 July 2007 (UTC)

• Delete nothing notable is asserted--but schools can not be speedied for that. There is no sourcing except for directory information. there is no information besides half a dozen AP courses and the name of the principal/vice-p., and the geographic area covered. I agree with that it is possible nonetheless that this school is notable, but not on the information presented. DGG 00:27, 30 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep per Liam UK and Noroton, there are thousands of those.JForget 01:05, 30 June 2007 (UTC)

There is nothing in the article that asserts that this subject is notable. Nothing gets a free ride on notability- if it doesn't meet WP:N, it doesn't meet WP:N. Can you show me where in the article there's any basis for your claim? --ForbiddenWord 15:55, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

We have different interpretations of notability. Some of us think that all high schools are notable, seeing as thousands of children spend years there. It has a cite in a reliable, govermental source, so I guess it comes down to if you think a high school is notable. LiamUK 16:34, 1 July 2007 (UTC)

No, it comes down to whether policy, which is the consensus of the Wikipedia community and the final arbiter in this case of what is or is not notable, sets standards that any subject meets. I respect your opinion if you believe that high schools are notable, but the simple fact is that it is not a matter of opinion- consensus has established a standard, laid out at the policy/guideline page, and we have a duty to follow that policy, or change that policy if we disagree with it. --ForbiddenWord 12:50, 2 July 2007 (UTC)

• Keep per Noroton. -- DS1953 ^talk 05:23, 2 July 2007 (UTC)
• comment !votes based all all schools being notable or not do not help the decision process. What's needed are arguments about whether this particular school is notable. Those who think them all notable should show how it is specifically justified by this instance. DGG 01:52, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Weak Keep Article does provide sources, and would benefit greatly from additional expansion. Alansohn 19:25, 3 July 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Jersey-related deletions. -- John Vandenberg 20:30, 4 July 2007 (UTC)
• Delete per BsF, DGG, etc... above. Eusebeus 07:11, 5 July 2007 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.