Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Buddhism and Hinduism

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. — CharlotteWebb 06:26, 6 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Buddhism and Hinduism

Reason Green23 12:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC) Delete, this article has too much original work WP:OR, the entire section from Siddhartha to idol worship is UNSOURCED ORIGINAL WORK....the rest is grossly POV, although POV is not a criteria for deletion. But it will be tagged as such.--Green23 12:49, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

This article is clearly in violation of WIKIPEDIA OFFICIAL POLICYWP:OR:

Articles may not contain any unpublished arguments, ideas, data, or theories; or any unpublished analysis or synthesis of published arguments, ideas, data, or theories that serves to advance a position.--Green23 14:18, 2 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - There are many sources in the article. Also Hinduism and Buddhism share a long history, each borrowing from the other. It is of interest to note the similarities of belief and practice as well as the differences. Also please refer to Jainism and Hinduism, Gujarat Freedom of Religion (Amendment) Bill 2006. Sfacets 13:31, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, but rewrite. Addhoc 14:10, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, encyclopedic language is required. I intended to get to it today though. The citations include sacred Buddhist canonical texts, world renowed authorities and Microsoft Encarta, to name a few. They're as good as anything you're likely to find on Wikipedia. The only one disputing the article is User:Green23, who has a history of vandalism prior to this article (see here) Freedom skies 15:48, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep The article can be improved, but it already provides some useful information and references. Stammer 17:27, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, the nomination reason is a good reason to cleanup and remove unsourced WP:OR, but I don't think deletion is warrented. A discussion about Buddhism and Hinduism together can be a good article, it just needs a massive rewrite.--Isotope23 17:30, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Very important and notable topic in comparative religion. Those knowledgable and interested can continue to improve the article by editing. Edison 18:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep Undeniable truth that Buddhism and Sikhism are Dharmic religions and connected to Hinduism in the same way that Christianity and Islam are Abrahamic religions and connected to Judaism.The details can be hashed out.Bad faith nom ("Nevertheless, the article will be tagged as such?????").Hkelkar 21:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletions. -- Ageo020 (Talk • Contribs) 22:00, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and move to Relationships between Buddhism and Hinduism.--TBCΦtalk? 22:16, 2 November 2006 (UTC)
• Speedy Keep - Islam and Christianity, etc. Bad faith nom.Bakaman _Bakatalk 01:52, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - the connection between Buddhism and Hinduism cannot be denied, especially when Gautam Buddha himself was a Khshatriya Hindu. Syiem 06:35, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep - Though this may not be a bad faith move by the sponsor, effects of cultures and religion in areas they intreact are often found.Article needs to be cleaned of [WP:OR] contributions that do not stand on reliable sources or who draw on sources that may not objectively study the topic (overly religious -nationalistic) sites.TerryJ-Ho 12:47, 3 November 2006 (UTC)

Comment : Despite the User:Green23's bad faith nomination and acts of mindless, incessent vandalism I have cleaned up the article, used enclyclopedic language and provided more citations. The only task remaining is to check the article for repeated internal links, which I plan to get to ASAP. I hope a decision according to the required norms will be reached. Freedom skies 08:23, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Delete or Rewrite searching comparisons section signed up for this, and find this... very dubious sources, poor historical analysis, facts are incorrect. POV. --Saavak123 16:11, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

This was above users 5th edit, all of which were on Buddhism's relationships to other religions

Yes, Buddhism does have a comparison section right on the template, which is easier to edit all Buddhism sections... Your attempts to call people editing your edits "vandalism" has been reported. I research people thoroughly and have noted that you keep calling edits and dispute tags as vandalism in the History section.--Saavak123 16:58, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

Comment - User:Green23, User:Saavak123 and User:216.254.121.169 are sockpuppets of the same person. They have the same patterns (see here and here) and what's worse is that this person has started voting in AfD debates (You'll notice that the only two delete votes are given by Green23 and Savak123 here). This is in addition to them having the number 23 common in their ID and the same contribution patterns. Please protect the article from excessive abuse by a user who is charged of sockpuppetery and guilty of violent, incessent vandalism.

Freedom skies 17:00, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

• Keep - interesting article, although it is important to keep standards high with regards to sources. --Deodar 18:09, 4 November 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. However, the ridiculous edit warring going on from both sides needs to stop. ThuranX 19:06, 4 November 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.