Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result was keep Bruce Cole, delete duplicate page Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman. —Centrx→talk • 19:46, 9 January 2007 (UTC)
[edit] Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman, Bruce Cole
- Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Bruce Cole (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs)
- Note: added Bruce Cole, an exact copy. Fan-1967 18:14, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
Appears to be a dump of some NEH press release, not remotely resembling an encyclopedic article. As it's from a .gov site, it's not a copyvio, but it's certainly not an article either. Author's only response to {{cleanup}} and {{wikify}} tags is to repeatedly remove the tags and format it further away from Wiki standards. I don't know if there's anything salvageable here or not. My recommendation is Delete. Fan-1967 17:56, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete it's a copy-and-paste from here but Mr Cole is not notable. Budgiekiller 18:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Its not a simple cut and paste. Its proper content and it should stay.
- —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petedaly (talk • contribs)
- Note Author is repeatedly removing AFD tags, as well as warnings from his Talk page. This particular edit is rather amusing. Fan-1967 18:55, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- There are some useres who like to make up stories, and user Fan is one. Why make problems User Fan ? Standards are met. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Petedaly (talk • contribs)
- Neutral. Despite the decidedly uncooperative behaviour of the article creator, I think Mr Cole has the potential to be notable, as chairman of a government agency and an academic. If Petedaly stops his abusive editing, formats the article appropriately (including removal/rewriting of copyvio material), and provides reliable sources for Mr Cole's academic achievements (see - WP:PROF) then the article can stay. Tevildo 19:06, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. Tevildo, I certainly agree that if Petedaly is being uncooperative as you say that behavior would need to be addressed. But I don't think that deleting an article that would otherwise merit inclusion is the right way to handle it. There are various dispute resolution processes, and in cases where the 3RR or other policies are violated (e.g. continually inserting copyvio material), the individual may be blocked. I haven't looked at the article to determine whether I think it should stay, but I suggest that we look at based on its own merits rather than the behavior. Cheers, delldot | talk 20:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- The ban is in place. Does the NEH website count as a reliable source? If so, I think we're in "keep" territory if we include it as a reference. Tevildo 20:40, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. Tevildo, I certainly agree that if Petedaly is being uncooperative as you say that behavior would need to be addressed. But I don't think that deleting an article that would otherwise merit inclusion is the right way to handle it. There are various dispute resolution processes, and in cases where the 3RR or other policies are violated (e.g. continually inserting copyvio material), the individual may be blocked. I haven't looked at the article to determine whether I think it should stay, but I suggest that we look at based on its own merits rather than the behavior. Cheers, delldot | talk 20:11, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman, no opinion on Bruce Cole. Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman is a duplicate article and an unlikely search so would probably not be useful as a redirect. Nice work cleaning up Bruce Cole, Telvido! delldot | talk 20:28, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep the cleaned-up version of Bruce Cole, delete Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman. The Bruce Cole article cleaned up nicely (add my thanks to Telvido!), and as the head of a US government agency and as a academic and researcher, he seems to meet minimum standards of notability. The other article isn't needed, and has a name which nobody is going to find. -- ArglebargleIV 21:48, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Bruce Cole, delete Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman per ArglebargleIV. Being the chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities is a sufficiently prominent position that anyone who holds it should qualify under WP:BIO. Wikipedia already has articles about five of the seven other chairmen of NEH (there have only been eight), among them William Bennett and Lynne Cheney. --Metropolitan90 23:44, 5 January 2007 (UTC)
- Delete copyvio from http://www.neh.gov/whoweare/colebio.html Guy (Help!) 00:14, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Comment. As the nomination indicates, that page is a Work of the United States Government which is not copyrightable. --Metropolitan90 01:24, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Keep Bruce Cole, delete Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman per ArglebargleIV. Very unfortunate that the editor could not use more cooperative behavior, but a separate issue. --Dhartung | Talk 04:04, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- Comment Bruce Cole, NEH Chairman has now been redirected to Bruce Cole. Although US Govt information is not copyrighted/copyrightable, I still think it's bad form to lift something wholesale as was done by te creator. Ohconfucius 08:19, 6 January 2007 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
