Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brooklyn Zu

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The result of the debate was copyvio, already deleted. — Trilobite (Talk) 02:22, 20 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Brooklyn Zu

No clue. Abstain. ArmadniGeneral 8 July 2005 00:35 (UTC)

It seems strange to bring an article to VfD that you yourself are not going to vote to delete. If you're that unsure, it's a keep. -Splash 8 July 2005 02:29 (UTC)

People abstain all the time, you know. The point is, I couldn't verify it, but then again there's a chance it could be legitimate. Someone else might know. I'm not going to slap a delete vote on something that I don't know enough about. --ArmadniGeneral 8 July 2005 07:19 (UTC)

• Delete Minor rap group with no albums that I could find. Does not meet WP:MUSIC -Harmil 8 July 2005 01:31 (UTC)
• Delete as per Harmil, no entry on AMG. Jaxl 8 July 2005 01:36 (UTC)
• Delete: Supposedly a "crew" that did production? beats? backing? on some records. As with other things relating to that "band," it appears to be a private name for a group of people who are not known by that term anywhere else. Geogre 8 July 2005 02:22 (UTC)
• Delete'. "Brooklyn Zu" collects 6260 Google hits, however they nearly all appear to be about a series of films by that name. The band have no allmusic.com presence and from what I can filter from Google have not generated any media interest either, nor anything else that would qualify on WP:MUSIC. If anyone wants to rewrite the article to be about the films, I'll change to keep. -Splash 8 July 2005 02:29 (UTC)
• Delete It, along with the dozens of others just like it that have been added this evening are all copyvios. Somebody has been pasting one paragraph at a time from a website on this topic into Wikipedia.Tobycat 8 July 2005 07:15 (UTC)
  • Hah! I thought so...I've been watching them pop up on Special:Recentchanges all night. Have you been catching them and slapping {{copyvio}} on them? --ArmadniGeneral 8 July 2005 07:22 (UTC)
• Strong keep: Wait. Wait. While not particularly well-known, Brooklyn Zu is a legitimate rap crew affiliated with the Wu-tang clan, especially Ol' Dirty Bastard, who some persons might be interested in learning more on. While the body of the article is a copyvio as it stands, I'll work on the article myself. Same with Hell Razah, Killah Priest, and anyone else that comes along. jglc | t | c 8 July 2005 14:50 (UTC)

Might I add, those of you who've seen my VfD contributions and votes before know that I am very zealous in pursuing deletions for non-notable groups and bandcruft. I hope that you take into account the fact that I'm voting to keep (which I seldom do on obscure bands), instead of delete (as I almost always do). jglc | t | c 8 July 2005 14:52 (UTC)

comment: I got it. The crew are members of Wu-Tang. It looked for all the world to me like another name for part of the band. I.e. a way for them to jokingly refer to their beats unit. Thus, it wouldn't be a separate band at all and therefore not one with records, etc. Do you have any recordings by them that aren't Wu-tang? Geogre 8 July 2005 15:29 (UTC)

That's the problem, and the one reason I suppose that they don't meet WP:MUSIC... Brooklyn Zu, as with many other groups affiliated with Wu-Tang (Streetlife, for one), have yet to put out a solo recording. They have made guest appearances on ODB's LP's (and are known as his "other" rap crwe), and - I believe - have been working on a solo mixtape. I dunno: to me, they're notable, but others may feel that they are not. I honestly feel, though, that they deserve an encyclopaedic entry (i.e. brief, to-the-point, but informative). jglc | t | c 8 July 2005 15:36 (UTC)

• Delete notability not established. JamesBurns 9 July 2005 03:14 (UTC)
• Delete. Non-notable band cruft. And, from the looks of it, a copyvio too. RoySmith 22:21, 9 July 2005 (UTC)

• QuestionComment: The article as it stood was a copyvio. However, I would take it upon myself to create a better article outlining who Brooklyn Zu are. In fact, I think, the best proposal is to create an article Wu-affiliates, with all the groups like Hell Razah, Brooklyn Zu, Killah Priest, Streetlife, &c. contained therein. On their own, these rappers may not have the clout to be encyclopaedic, but I feel that a mention of the Wu-tang Clan should not go without some sort of companion article on their many colourful side projects and affiliates. jglc | t | c 01:50, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Is there a question in there somewhere? RoySmith 02:10, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

Heh. My bad. I originally meant to ask whether you guys thought it would be a good idea to create a secondary article, but realised that, due to the nature of Wikipedia, it'd be fine to go ahead and do so on my own. I retained the incorrect label. jglc | t | c 17:58, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

• Merge Redirect into Wu-Tang Clan or a breakout article detailing "their many colourful side projects and affiliates". -- Jonel | Speak 02:34, 10 July 2005 (UTC)

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