Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Broncomania

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was Speedy deleted, CSD A6, attack page. AfD in progress and overwhelming consensus to delete, Snowball clause --Tony Sidaway 23:54, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Broncomania

This is an article about the message board for the Denver Broncos' fan website, and it's a kind of a mess. I don't think the website itself is particularly notable; it's obviously pretty popular, and it gets over 100 000 Google hits, the vast, vast majority of them are simply hits for the site itself, not references in other media or the like. Size does matter, but I don't think this one really meets WP:WEB. I almost was bold and just did a redirect Denver Broncos, but first of all, I kind of anticipated a lot of argument about that so I decided to skip that and go straight for the AfD, and secondly, it seems a little untidy to redirect something that has to do with a website to an article that is not at all about the website. Anyway, in addition to all this, the article has serious POV problems, it includes weird lists and usage instructions, has a thoroughly unencyclopedic tone of voice, and is generally pretty much a mess. I'm sure it could be salvaged if the topic was noteworthy enough, but I don't think it is. Perhaps an article on the Broncos' website would be more appropriate, and the discussion boards could certainly be dealt with there, but apparently one doesn't exist at the moment. -- Captain Disdain 14:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete per my own nomination. -- Captain Disdain 14:39, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
  • Oh, and just as an FYI, User:Snk16, the most frequent contributor to the article, just now removed the AfD template. I restored it and asked the editor to not do so again. In the meantime, the article is devolving into some sort of a slapfest between people who got banned from the forum and people who think that's great or something, I don't know. I'm sure a good time is being had by all. -- Captain Disdain 15:03, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
• Delete...

i am the creator of this page and by the concensis of active members in my forum is to delete it... regards anton —Preceding unsigned comment added by Anton g-love (talk • contribs) 15:10, 18 June 2006

• sorry about deleting the AfD template thing. That was my fault, won't happen again. These trolls who were banned are going on about it and editing some bad stuff, and no it's not fun, so please delete it.
• obvious delete Per WP:SNOW. Even the creator wants it deleted, aside from its questionable notability. The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 19:32, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

WTE says....Keep this page. it's a great opportunity to speak the truth about the tyrannical rule of Steve Harbula. The oppressed registered users of Broncomania do not have a forum to express their displeasure with the site. Wikpedia provides that vehicle. Let's keep the motor running and keep this site open. The truth must be told!!

Sincerely,

-WTE—Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.147.40.16 (talk • contribs)

Um...that's not a proper reason to keep an article. See What wikipedia is not a soapbox.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:04, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Plus, it doesn't conform to a neutral point of view.--The ikiroid (talk·desk·Advise me) 21:07, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Personally, I fail to see how this forum is notable enough for an encyclopedia article. But regardless, it is clearly being used as a means of attacking others, which is against Wiki guidelines. IrishGuy talk 21:11, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• I don't see this as a early close under SNOW, and we need to evaluate input from everyone, not just the creator of the article, even if they're saying delete, but I'm also not seeing notability here so I think Delete is the correct action. ++Lar: t/c 22:20, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

• I also agree, I think you all should delete the page because it's a soapbox now...
• Please note for anyone wanting to vote CSD G7, that only applies to a single creator, not when people have been working on it for a while. However, this page has been becoming little more than a target for vandals and POV-pushers out to make a WP:POINT (the lone user who has contributed constructively to the article and hasn't voted delete is an IP), so delete, and warn (and possibly block) User:WTE for pushing his POV. Morgan Wick 23:30, 18 June 2006 (UTC)
• I say delete it, it's dead now anyway...-Signed Snk16
• I was the dude who made constructive edits to this. I figured I should try to save this, but it's become even more of a drama fest than anything else. WTE and PatsR seem to be the type of people that could really benefit from the reinstatement of corporal punishment in elementary schools. - dontfeedthenerd
• Delete - Only 20 unique Google hits. A massive 120k non-unique hits though, geez... Wickethewok 19:19, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.