Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bridge Elementary School

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was SPEEDILY DELETED. I've been veering away from public school debates, but this is one sentence and an infobox. That fails CSD A1. As with any speedy deletion, this is non-binding, so if someone wants to write an article, this AFD poses no obstacle. - A Man In Bl♟ck (conspire | past ops)

[edit] Bridge Elementary School

Non-notable school. Phoenix Hacker 09:09, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete; the information in this article is already in {{RichmondBCSchools}}, and this school is non-notable anyway (Liberatore, 2006). 11:27, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment: I disagree, the template {{RichmondBCSchools}} has a link to this article, but doesn't have any information on this school. --Stephane Charette 18:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, elementary schools are not notable, especially as the information is duplicated. Proto::type 14:59, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete nn school. Carlossuarez46 17:41, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. Fails the test of another editor that I have taken to heart. Agent 86 17:52, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Passes the test of a Wikiproject that I have taken to heart. --Stephane Charette 18:02, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • So... if I start Wikipedia:Wikiproject Hairs on Haeleth's Head and create a big template with a stub for every hair on my head, will you support me in the inevitable deletion debates, please? — Haeleth Talk 20:31, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
    • If you think the hairs on your head have influenced enough lives that anyone would ever bother looking up the topic on Wikipedia, go ahead and try. Personally, I think schools typically have had students in the past and/or present, and it isn't too farfetched to think that any of those people might look up a school. Your example with a wikiproject on the hairs on your head is simply a WP:POINT, and as such, doesn't stand to compare well against any well-established project. --Stephane Charette 21:26, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
      • BTW, feel free to copy any of our "big templates" (your quote) if it'll help get your project off the ground quicker. In the meantime, we'd love to have you and everyone else come help us out at WP:EiC. We're currently actively working on WP:EiC#Cleanup needed, and would gladly accept either new nominations (such as this article being considered for deletion) or assistance in cleaning up the school articles that have recently been listed there. --Stephane Charette 21:29, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep as this article is part of a series on education in Richmond, British columbia. Nominator has failed to provide a valid reason for deletion. Silensor 18:05, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment, I disagree... the nomination has provided as valid a reason for deletion as say someone who references a personal essay like Wikipedia:Schools/Arguments#Keep as a reason for retention.--Isotope23 18:16, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment. As per WP:DP, notability or the lack thereof is not a valid criterion for the deletion of a school article.Nicodemus75 20:54, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
      • Comment That is an inference on your part Nico... not explicitly stated in WP:DP. "Non-notable school" is just as valid a reason to nominate for AfD or opine delete as "clearly noteworthy subject" is for opining keep.--Isotope23 20:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
        • Comment: What I said in reference to the nomination today by Newspaper98 applies to the articles nominated by Phoenix Hacker as well. For less controversial topics, I have no problem with "non notable" as shorthand for why an article is being nominated for deletion. However, given the sharp divide on whether or not school articles are inherently encyclopedic and by what standards we determine whether a school article is encyclopedic, I would hope to see a much more substantive reason for the nomination of a school than simply "non notable". Given the lack of a firm policy on schools, it would be helpful to know why the nominator thinks the school is non-notable. I do believe that the nominations by Phoenix Hacker were made in good faith; however, all these nominations without a more detailed explanation of why they are being nominated verges on WP:POINT. This editor is helping no one by the large number of nominations (s)/he has posted for AfDs on schools with the only reason being "nn" and the large number of {{prod}}s (s)/he has placed on other school articles. I don't care if someone thinks keep or delete. It just seems that it would serve everyone better if the nomination set forth some reasoning for what should be expected to attract a lot of strong opinions. A more substantive reason for nomination would be particularly helpful for those editors who judge each school article on a case-by-case basis. Agent 86 20:46, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep. Despite my above comment, this is a clearly noteworthy subject.--Nicodemus75 18:48, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Merge and Redirect to the school district article, if not Delete Jaranda ^{wat's sup} 19:39, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep, no reason to deprive users of information about established schools. Kappa 19:56, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, Wikipedia is not a school directory. Education in Canada is an important subject. Individual Canadian schools are not. — Haeleth Talk 20:30, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Elementary schools aren't generally accepted unless there's a decent notablility claim, and there isn't one here. Vickser 20:38, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep and allow for organic growth. The general test for inclusion is verifiability, not something which is measured by point of view. Bahn Mi 22:01, 28 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete Elementary School --Musaabdulrashid 22:14, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete as a non-notable elementary school. Erechtheus 23:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete, elementary schools generally don't warrant articles unless they did something noteworthy. WP:SCHOOLS is a failed guideline, and the creation of a wikiproject does not confer encyclopedic value to all its subjects. --Coredesat talk. ^_^ 01:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Keep per Bahn Mi. --Myles Long 03:17, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete Article constitutes a directory entry. (It has grown a little during the discussion, but not enough to make it useful content. When nominated, the content was "Bridge Elementary School is a school in Richmond, British Columbia." plus the template for Richmond, British Columbia. All that has been added is directory information.) Per WP:NOT policy, directory entries are explicitly forbidden; see subsection "Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information", item 7 "Directories, directory entries, TV/Radio Guide or a resource for conducting business.". Additionally, one of the expectations that Wikipedia has of every wikipedia project is that the project help build an encyclopedia, which means helping decide where to draw the boundary line between topics to cover and topics to exclude. Despite the assertion above that the article passes the WP:EiC test, I see no test at that project; the word test doesn't appear on the page and I see nothing else on the page or its current talk page that amounts to a test of material worthy of inclusion. As to why Phoenix Hacker made so many of these nominations, a single user was mass creating these entries with nothing more than a single line of text. Mass creation of useless articles leads to multiple deletion discussions. As explained in the intro to Wikipedia:Notability, it is the opinion of "some [and by evidence at AFD, a large number of] editors that this is what is meant by Wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information (which is a formal policy). Many editors also believe that it is fair test of whether a subject has achieved sufficient external notice to ensure that it can be covered from a neutral point of view based on verifiable information from reliable sources, without straying into original research (all of which are formal policies)." GRBerry 04:05, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete since wikipedia is not an indiscriminate collection of information and not a directory of schools. Moreover, eventhough this is not paper, my guess is that the number of schools in the world is so large that there is simply no space to have an interesting non-stub article on all of them. -- Koffieyahoo 07:14, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete. The idea that an enumeration of its schools qualifies as articles "on education in Richmond, British columbia" is a plague on Wikipedia. Don't mistake information for knowledge. -- GWO
  • Am I supposed to be grateful to you for deciding whether what I want to know about counts as knowledge or not? Kappa 11:45, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete If I may quote the film Catman: Lethal Track, "For fuck's sake, man!" It's an article on an elementary school, and one that gives nothing but the most primary information, no less. -- Kicking222 18:13, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.