Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brickey Elementary

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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Can't sleep, clown will eat me 00:54, 15 November 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Brickey Elementary

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To explain this context/confusion black hole...An elementary school. In Tennessee. With about 1000 students. With the wrong name. Notable? Not so per WP:SCHOOLS, which is a proposed guideline though. TTV (MyTV|PolygonZ|Green Valley) 00:25, 10 November 2006 (UTC)

  • Delete - Also fails WP:HASRIGHTNAME. --Shrieking Harpy......Talk|Count 00:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete No evidence of notability is presented in the article. --Icarus (Hi!) 02:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails to assert notability.--Húsönd 04:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. TJ Spyke 04:12, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Just a building, nothing more. Resolute 05:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. It has a two year history of... Absolutely nothing. -newkai t-c 05:32, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. --- RockMFR 06:00, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete Fails WP:SCHOOL, the most widely-accepted standard for evaluating such articles. Seems to have little prospect that this article will ever advance beyond this point. Alansohn 06:13, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, even if you discount WP:SCHOOL as just a proposed policy, there is nothing here that shows that this school is notable. It has only existed for two years, and being built to solve an overcrowding problem does not make something notable. In the event it is kept, it needs to be moved to a different title. --Coredesat 06:21, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment I haven't finished researching this school yet (getting close to bedtime) but one student did place first in a low level state gymnastic competition- I have added a note about that to the article. The only other mentions of the school that aren't directory entries or something similar seem to be [1] which might have some relevant data, it notes a "military theme" for last graduation and has a few other minor details which might be able to be incorporated into the article. This [2] discusses their accelerated reading program and may also have a few details if anyone really wants to sort it out. The only other interesting one is [3] where the mention is incidental (and unreliable in any event- they can't even spell - "Bible studies") but sounds like it might be a first amendment case waiting to happen (except given the location this sort of thing might be taken for granted and without more details it is hard to see precisely what they are doing. The description is consistent with completely legal behavior- I may just be a cynical evil liberal). Presumably if they get an interesting case about that then the school would become notable but that obviously hasn't happened yet. JoshuaZ 06:34, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • *Weak but almost normal delete Ok, mainly per some of the above comments and my own comments earlier. Despite researching I could find nothing notable about the school. The only reason why this is weak delete is that I don't know enough about gymnastics to tell whether the mentioned gymnastic result could be arguably notable or not. From my limited knowledge my impression is no, but I'm not completely sure- the most reasonable test for that - presence of non-trivial coverage, indicates a lack of notability in the gymnastic success. JoshuaZ 06:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC) Changing to full delete per evidence/comments from Fram below. JoshuaZ 16:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
Comment If the student who earned the gymnastic result is not notable enough to have their own article, which they are not, then what they did is not notable enough to earn the school an article either. --The Way 02:24, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Comment Oh, and just for completeness, the school is also mentioned in participating in some minor program here [4]. This does not alter notability. JoshuaZ 06:43, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep/merge. The entire school was demolished and rebuilt, and but wikipedia readers in the area aren't supposed to be able to find this out? If merged, might want to omit some of the details, as well as JoshuaZ' signature. Kappa 07:41, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
    • ooh, Don;t know how that fell in there. took it out. Thanks. Will respond to the other comments tommorow probably. Have a goodnight. JoshuaZ 07:46, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Expanding on my earlier comment, could you explain how being demolished and rebuilt is an indication of notability? One of the local drug stores he got demolished and rebuilt too. JoshuaZ 16:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
      • Repeating my question, can you tell me why wikipedia readers shouldn't be able to find out that an entire school in their area was demolished, rebuilt and renamed? Kappa 04:48, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
        • Sure, as The Way observed below, having schools demolished and rebuilt is common and not at all a notable event. If they want to find out about it they can find from local resources. Wikipedia is not the history of every little thing that random city government decided to do. JoshuaZ 04:54, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
          • So much for putting the sum total of human knowledge in my hand. Parasites. Kappa 04:59, 11 November 2006 (UTC)
            • Sum total of human knowledge? WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Shimeru 00:32, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per above. MER-C 09:14, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Likely an add. No notability whatsoever. Spinach Dip 09:59, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. The gymnast mentioned was competing at a really low (well, the lowest) level, as evidenced by e.g. this[5] article about Level 4 gymnastics. Thta also explains why it only gets one local passing mention in an article and no more coverage. No other discerning qualities, so no reason to keep this one. Fram 10:03, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete. Notability must be established and this is well short. Montco 19:05, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Weak keep 1000 pupils is a lot for an elementary school, isn't it? Computerjoe's talk 19:29, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Keep, should be reasonably easy to find sources and rename the article. JYolkowski // talk 23:22, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete It's bad enough that we tend to keep every single high school, please don't make a precedent of keeping every single elementary school as well. This is non-notable and so what if it was demolished and rebuilt? Two different elementary schools in my hometown, both of which are just as non-notable, have had the same thing happen to them and I'd assume it's not very uncommon across the US, let alone across the world (especially in developing countries). I must point out, as I have a tendency to do, what kind of precedent keeping this would set. First of all we'd have to take every elementary school, not only in the US but worldwide, that fits is as notable as this school, meaning most elementary schools would be able to get articles. This is not something Wikipedia needs, it amounts (as does keeping high schools, but that's an entirely different topic of discussion) essentially to a detailed directory and Wikipedia is NOT supposed to function as a directory. Elementary Schoolcruft. --The Way 23:48, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete per nom. Arbusto 23:58, 10 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delete, if there's anything here worth noting, it can be noted in the appropriate Knoxville article. Lankiveil 00:51, 11 November 2006 (UTC).
  • Delete Utterly non-notewrothy and unlikely to expand. Can be re-added in the future if it should happen to become noteworthy. Shimeru 00:30, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Delere per nom. — pd_THOR | =/\= | 18:43, 12 November 2006 (UTC)
  • keep please this should be notable to the community and surrounding areas Yuckfoo 19:50, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
    • Comment First of all, many things are notable to a community, that doesn't make them notable enough to have their own articles on Wikipedia. Second of all, do you have any evidence that this is at all notable to the community and surrounding areas? JoshuaZ 19:52, 13 November 2006 (UTC)
  • Merge and then place a redirect to Knoxville, Tennessee as a possible search term. Yamaguchi先生 22:26, 14 November 2006
  • Keep. With so many children in attendance at a K-5 school, notability is debatable. Silensor 00:46, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.