Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Brass monkey

This page is an archive of the proposed deletion of the article below. Further comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or on a Votes for Undeletion nomination). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result of the debate was KEEP, unanimously apart from nom. -Splash 02:23, 31 July 2005 (UTC)

[edit] Brass monkey

This is another urban legend. There are plenty ([1], [2], [3]) of sources which adequately discredit this myth. Denni☯ 04:22, 2005 July 21 (UTC)

• Delete - just an urban legend. --InformationalAnarchist 04:25, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Delete - Urban legend, c'mon people. - Chairboy 04:27, 21 July 2005 (UTC) Changing vote to Keep following the complete rewrite of the article. Nice job. - Chairboy 00:20, 24 July 2005 (UTC)
• While this seems deletable, there is a notable band Brass Monkey, of which Martin Carthy was a member. If I can find some good info I'll look into writing an article on them. -R. fiend 04:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • Actually, there is a page on Brass Monkey which it seems needs some cleanup. Redirect there, and clean that up. I'll help. -R. fiend 04:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
    • Keep, after rewrite. -R. fiend 15:13, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep The rewrite seems to follow the etymology of the term and give an interesting and informative desription. Hamster Sandwich 09:49, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to Brass Monkey. Keep rewritten article. Capitalistroadster 05:06, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
  • We don't need to redirect, the Wiki automagically fixes capatilisation in this case =) Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions 06:05, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
• That being said, delete. Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions 06:05, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
  • Alright, someone did a very serious rewrite that is absolutely amazing. Speedy keep now that it's been done. Sasquatch′↔Talk↔Contributions 20:34, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
• Redirect to Beastie Boys Delete Keep after rewrite. Dammit, now I've got that song in my head... AиDя01DTALKEMAIL 20:53, July 21, 2005 (UTC)
• Strong keep. Haven't looked through the history of the page, but the referenced and informative article I read is very close to a model page on a folk etymology topic. Suspect it's been revised deeply since proposal; as it stands now, can't figure why it's here. Should also mention the cocktail, though. Smerdis of Tlön 13:37, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

The page has changed significantly, and the quality is much better now (at the time of initial vfd, it stated urban legend as fact), but the fact remains that it is a non-notable UL. A well written debunking of the non-notable is still non-notable. An additional concern is that the article text is now very very similar to the Snopes article. Not word for word, but not by much. - Chairboy 14:34, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

Keep in changed from. DJ Clayworth 16:26, 21 July 2005 (UTC)

• Very strong keep. As mentioned above, perhaps this is a rewrite, but it is thoroughly researched and rather well written (aside from the odd typo). Themindset 17:15, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep I think the piece of folk etomology debunked in this article is notable enough to merit inclusion. It was at one time a widely used phrase, and may still be encounterd in historical fiction among other places. DES 17:20, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I suspect if we delete the article, then a new (erroneous) copy will spring up again. It's obscure but probably marginally worth including; the phrase is not uncommon, and far better to have a sensible article explaining what it isn't rather than nothing. We have a page on The Whole Nine Yards, which discusses the folk etymologies; same concept, really. Shimgray 17:30, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep, after rewrite by User:Jonathan de Boyne Pollard. —PrologFan {Talk} 20:45, 21 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Marvelous rewrite. Xoloz 04:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep -- clear explanation of well-known phrase or expression, without being POV. Not suitable for dictionary; undoubtedly something people will look up. Ought to be here. --SockpuppetSamuelson 07:33, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep. I always use the phrase 'Brass Monkey weather'. --Richhil 16:20, 22 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Nick 09:43, 23 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Now perfectly legitimate article questioning the myth. PatGallacher 00:08, 2005 July 24 (UTC)
• Keep. The original nomination was sound, but the completely rewritten article is an example of Wikipedia's best.-gadfium 22:24, 28 July 2005 (UTC)
• Keep Very nice re-write. =) Xaa 02:52, 29 July 2005 (UTC)

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