Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bossaball

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was speedy delete, it's a copyvio. Ryan Postlethwaite 07:52, 16 June 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bossaball

Bossaball (edit|talk|history|links|watch|logs) – (View log)

Game created in 2003, possibly not notable. Originally nominated for speedy deletion. Procedural nomination - no vote. - Mike Rosoft 14:05, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

• Delete Just plain spam. ExtraDry 14:06, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
• Looks like a hell of a lot of fun. Delete as WP:NN, no WP:RS and product spam. --Evb-wiki 14:43, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Weak keep - Most of my issues have been resolved. It still needs reliable sources, especially if they're out there. My searches turned up advertisements, lots of them. --Evb-wiki 16:19, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
• Keep: Urrr ... I take it no one's researched this? There are 55,000 hits on Google, and the first ten turn up an article on the ABC website. I've also got nine hits on Google News from Spanish language sources [1].  RGTraynor  15:08, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sports-related deletions. -- -- pb30<talk> 15:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Strong keep and add sources For a non-notable sport, there sure are a lot of references. Apparently played internationally.--Ispy1981 15:53, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

Keep - Seems like a very legit sport. Has specific equipment, good photos, and lots of google hits. Plm209^{(talk to me • contribs)} 16:17, 13 June 2007 (UTC)

• Speedy Keep. As per RGTraynor.--Edtropolis 16:24, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Does it meet the speedy keep criteria? Morgan Wick 20:35, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
    • No, it doesn't. Definitely a Keep though. EliminatorJR ^Talk 23:07, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
      • Comment Please keep in mind that AfD is not a vote, but rather a process to reach a consensus; it is considered proper to state your argument as well, and simple "keep" votes may be discounted when determining consensus at the end. I encourage you to read WP:AADD for more information.ExtraDry 23:14, 13 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment: I'd be more sanguine about lecturing folks about AfD process were I to have more of an argument, with more fact checking, than "just plain spam."  RGTraynor  00:20, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
        • Comment: I didn't state policy as I thought it was obvious from looking at the article, but I'll expand if you wish - it passes WP:NOTE and WP:V and while the tone leans a little towards advertising, that's a fix it issue more than anything else. It certainly isn't pure spam. EliminatorJR ^Talk 00:05, 15 June 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Mine is backed up by the content guideline WP:ADVERT. ExtraDry 00:25, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • Just because it is a bad article now does not mean the topic is not notable. Morgan Wick 01:06, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
    • Yes, but spam can and should be deleted regardless of how notable the product being advertised is. --Evb-wiki 04:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
      • I wrote the original article. I can see why you might consider it spam. I removed the external links to the bossaball website. About notability : Googling gives me 69900 results [2]
    • Comment: Hmmm ... it's getting a bit deep in here. Upon what criteria are you basing this opinion that this article is spam? The notability of this sport isn't in question, however recent its invention. So ... let's examine the article. There's a paragraph on the rules of the game ... check. There's a paragraph on how it is played ... check. There's a paragraph on how it was founded and where it is played ... check. Could someone explain to me how this differs from the articles on any other sport, no matter the longevity?  RGTraynor  12:49, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
• Comment Also has copyright violations

  Scoring on the inflatables is worth 1 point. Scoring on the trampolines is worth 3 points. Hitting the bossawall (= the rings around the trampolines) doesn´t count as a score, so the rally continues.

  is taken from [3] here. ExtraDry 11:17, 14 June 2007 (UTC)
  • I wrote the original article. I agree. I rephrased the paragraph.
• Deja-vu - The logs do not appear to show it, but this has been around and deleted previously - Tiswas^(t) 16:09, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• Keep - it needs sources though. It may be a new sport, no doubt being heavily marketed, but even the cynic in me cannot ignore reliable sourced news article. - Tiswas^(t) 16:14, 14 June 2007 (UTC)

• I wrote the original article. I rephrased "Rules and Music and Sports" to avoid copyright violation of www.bossaball.com. About every phrase that can be considered copyright violation has been rephrased now.

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