Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bobby Martin
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- The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
The result of the debate was no consensus. Mackensen (talk) 17:41, 4 July 2006 (UTC)
[edit] Bobby Martin
About high school football player without legs. Gets less than 500 hits on google (under "Bobby Martin" football dayton) and almost none on google groups. He will likely not be notable after he finishes high school (if he hasn't already). Burgwerworldz 08:28, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Not notable. DarthVader 08:31, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete. Sorry Bobby, but for now you're not quite notable enough per WP:BIO. --Coredesat talk 09:13, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete per nom. Nearly Headless Nick 10:00, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Abstain and commentHe is nominated for an ESPY Award. See here (hit "Vote Now") and scroll down to "Best Male Athlete With A Disability". Whether that warrants inclusion in WP or not, I don't know. -- Kicking222 16:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)- Changing vote to Strong keep. Aside from the ESPY nom, a quick Google search of "Bobby Martin"+football shows A LOT of hits from reliable sources- Sports Illustrated, USA Today, the Boston Globe, etc. Thus, he passes WP:BIO. -- Kicking222 00:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I had put Dayton in my original search because the name is common and could refer to other people. There are lots of human interest stories done by ESPN and Sports Illustrated done just to get away from the mainstream, that doesn't mean that they are all intitled to an article here. With all the publicity aside, I'm sure he's far from the first player in high school football to have a major physical disability. And the ESPY awards, they are a set of awards given by a cable network based on fan votes, I don't think that qualifies as a very ligitimate award. When all is said and done, he's just a high school football player with no legs, that's it, that's not even close to notable, ESPY or no ESPY. --Burgwerworldz 01:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Cable network that has a wider audience than some broadcast networks. ESPN is no G4. --DarkAudit 02:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- While ESPN has a wide audience for a cable channel, it does not and will never have a wider audience than the broadcast networks. The ESPY is not a serious award, it's pure entertainment. ESPN and the like do lots of these "public interest" stories for local athletes, they do not all deserve and article here. --Burgwerworldz 03:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Again, "the like" does not have the reach of an ESPN. The ESPN name carries much greater weight than a Fox Sports Net or a Comcast Sports with audiences and advertisers alike. --DarkAudit 19:33, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- While ESPN has a wide audience for a cable channel, it does not and will never have a wider audience than the broadcast networks. The ESPY is not a serious award, it's pure entertainment. ESPN and the like do lots of these "public interest" stories for local athletes, they do not all deserve and article here. --Burgwerworldz 03:35, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Comment Cable network that has a wider audience than some broadcast networks. ESPN is no G4. --DarkAudit 02:58, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- I had put Dayton in my original search because the name is common and could refer to other people. There are lots of human interest stories done by ESPN and Sports Illustrated done just to get away from the mainstream, that doesn't mean that they are all intitled to an article here. With all the publicity aside, I'm sure he's far from the first player in high school football to have a major physical disability. And the ESPY awards, they are a set of awards given by a cable network based on fan votes, I don't think that qualifies as a very ligitimate award. When all is said and done, he's just a high school football player with no legs, that's it, that's not even close to notable, ESPY or no ESPY. --Burgwerworldz 01:43, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Changing vote to Strong keep. Aside from the ESPY nom, a quick Google search of "Bobby Martin"+football shows A LOT of hits from reliable sources- Sports Illustrated, USA Today, the Boston Globe, etc. Thus, he passes WP:BIO. -- Kicking222 00:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep ESPY nomination shows notability. --DarkAudit 17:12, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per DarkAudit -- NickSentowski 18:10, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Delete, doesn't appear particularly notable. High school football player. KleenupKrew 20:29, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep per Kicking222, Google hits do suggest that this person is notable. Yamaguchi先生 07:32, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep, unusually notable; beg to differ with Burgwerworldz on the impact of receiving an ESPY. RFerreira 20:44, 29 June 2006 (UTC)
- Keep Media coverage satisfies WP:BIO. Eluchil404 18:10, 1 July 2006 (UTC)
- The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.
