Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Bob Ebeling

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Resistance is futile! - Mailer Diablo 16:37, 30 July 2006 (UTC)

[edit] Bob Ebeling

Non-notable singer. Extremly POV. I think we might have speedied it once before. -Royalguard11^Talk 05:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

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• Delete per nom. -Royalguard11^Talk 05:59, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete You know, if you actually got nominated for a grammy, I would have expected the top google page result for your acomplishment to be mentioned somewhere other than Myspace, but maybe that's just me. Irongargoyle 06:20, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete It was speedied as db-empty, but AMG and google turn up nothing.--Chaser T 07:12, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete If this enrty was ever added before, it wasn't by me Rodney Libby, IT Director for Holiday Inn Southfield, His name was spelt wrong on Kid Rocks page and had an empty link. I can try and get more information, please let me know thanks

what is extreemly POV? Here is a single page referencing the Grammy Nomination... http://www.deanguitars.com/jon_kott.php —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.33.172.2 (talk • contribs)

and another

http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/2826435/a/Para+Siempre.htm

http://cdreviewsonline.com/june2006.htm

http://news.surfwax.com/music/archives/Smashing_Pumpkins.html

ALL 43rd annual grammy nominees:

http://www.salsaweb.com/music/articles/43rd_annual_grammy_nominees.htm

Bob (Robert) Kaeding was an aka for Bob Ebeling:

http://compras.univision.com/Downtown-CDs_stcVVproductId2935930VVcatId403860VVviewprod.htm

• Comment Should we count that as spamming the AfD? -Royalguard11^Talk 17:25, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

Too much information for you to handle? What is your affiliation with Wikipedia & The GNU Free Documentation License Entities(GFDL) Royalguard11? In trying to edit a Wikipedia article, you may encounter edit warriors?

• Comment These links seem to verify the claims, but I don't know if we should include producers and engineers. I'm ignorant about their notability in the music world, so perhaps a regular editor to music articles can advise. Unrelated to the merits of keeping, I'm quite annoyed that this IP apparently tried to impersonate me by copying my sig. This may have been an accident, but it doesn't look that way. If it was intentional, that is very uncool.--Chaser T 18:22, 24 July 2006 (UTC)
• Comment As for the POV, which I missed, the whole article reads like a praise of the subject. If it is kept for some reason, then it needs to be seriously rw. -Royalguard11^Talk 18:37, 24 July 2006 (UTC)

I will work on a listing much like other bio listings. Thanks for your help.

Rodney Libby (user:Rodnuts)

• Delete. Apparently Rob Ebeling (not credited as Bob) was one of 11 recording engineers/mixers who was credited under the Grammy nomination for Album of the Year for Eminem's The Marshall Mathers LP (along with Eminem as artist and five producers including Eminem) [1]. That's an accomplishment, but I don't know that he necessarily qualifies under WP:MUSIC by being one of eleven people receiving a tertiary nomination for a Grammy. If the article gets a significant rewrite before the AfD is over, I may reconsider. --Metropolitan90 04:19, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete The grammy nomination was a very very smal portion of this individuals accomplishments. --69.33.172.2 04:28, 25 July 2006 (UTC)
• Do Not Delete So you are saying that the guy that recorded Eminem and Dido's "Stan" is worthless to this culture? What about the guy who taught Kid Rock what rock is. What about the guy who completely produced Tantric, Remy Zero, Rufus Wainwright, Dead Meadow, etc..... --69.33.172.2 04:33, 25 July 2006 (UTC) (RODNUTS)
  • Please stop putting your recommendations in boldface. While AfD is not a vote, you have already stated your boldface recommendation for this article. Nobody has said Ebeling was worthless to this culture. Furthermore, you currently have more in this article about Ebeling's work with Ethan Daniel Davidson than his work with Eminem. The Grammy nomination may be a small part of Ebeling's work but that is no reason not to explain what he was nominated for. --Metropolitan90 05:06, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

Please add any info you find, I am trying to get everything I can. I thought this was a team effort?—Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.33.172.2 (talk • contribs)

• WP is a team effort, but people understandably don't want to put effort into something that they think should be deleted, which I still do because of notability concerns, not to mention that none of this is verified, which is required by a core policy. Sorry.--Chaser T 20:00, 25 July 2006 (UTC)

• Delete, and in the unlikely chance it isn't deleted, a complete re-write is needed. Stev0 19:06, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete ...the bias is obvious: A musical prodigy at age 6, Ebeling has been displaying natural talent ever since. Eventually mastering nearly any namable instrument, he became an indispensable part of hundreds of studio recordings, live acts, and a looming figure behind the scenes of uncountable musical entities. Not only that, the article is poorly written and formatted terribly.Gregmitch 20:43, 29 July 2006 (UTC)
• Delete - wholly unsourced. BlueValour 21:56, 29 July 2006 (UTC)

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