Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blake Michael

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The result was Delete Nakon 05:32, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blake Michael

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He's a child actor with a few credits behind him: one minor role in a television debut episode, and as host of a Cartoon Network programming block. Beyond that, while I wish him good luck in his career, I don't see much that would grant him WP:N. Yngvarr 11:18, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

I think Wikipedia should keep this entry. Blake has appeared in several national commercials, one worldwide commercial, and has appeared as a guest star on an ABC series and a Cartoon Network series. He has been in a national music video produced by the U.S. Army in conjunction with Christian music singer Mark Schultz, and has been a muse for Macy's print ads for at least one full year. Those are only some of Blake's many acting appearances. More importantly, his hosting responsibilities for Cartoon Network makes him the first kid in history to host a block of programming on National TV for 4 consecutive hours on Friday nights and 3 hours on Saturday mornings. Eleven year old Blake hosts 7 hours of programming on national TV every week. He actually came up with the name for the block "Fried Dynamite" himself. The network executives liked it so much they used it. There is much controversy about Blake right now in the cartoon community as Cartoon Network is adding more liveaction programming to its schedule. Blake's hosting position has been in hot debate amongst cartoon purists and you will find threads written about him and Fried Dynamite on many cartoon forums. It may be hard to find much personal information about Blake because his family fervently guards their privacy. Signed: Blondewitch —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blondewitch (talk • contribs) 20:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment to above: Many people appear in commercials, but I am not convinced that a few commercial appearances satisfy notability. As for the Cartoon Network controversy, isn't that Cartoon Network's issue, not Blake's? Yngvarr 20:49, 21 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment to Yngvarr comment: The additional acting work I mentioned was just a response to your first comment which describes Blake as having few credits. I was not using that portion of his career to establish notability. In your last response, you completely ignore what I had labeled as most important. That is that Blake Michael is notable because he is the first kid to be the official host of 7 hours of National Network programming- and he came up with the name for the hosting block.

Signed Blondewitch —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blondewitch (talk • contribs) 23:38, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

  • Comment Again, he has a few credits behind him. Commercials and as a host of a Cartoon Network segment. I'm not seeing what can be given to notability. WP:BIO, under the Entertainers heading gives these guidelines: With significant roles in notable films, television, stage performances, and other productions; Has a large fan base or a significant "cult" following; Has made unique, prolific or innovative contributions to a field of entertainment. Further guidelines offered at the basic WP:BIO are: published secondary source material which is reliable, or failing that, then multiple independent sources may be needed to prove notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources may not be sufficient to establish notability. The article as it sits gives nothing to offer otherwise. WP:PROVEIT, the burden of proof is for establishing notability. As for being the first "kid" to host national network television, that can be challenged. Yngvarr 00:05, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Article in newsday.com entertainment section http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/30/AR2007083001701.html Article in washingtonpost.com http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117973366.html?categoryid=14&cs=1 Article in Variety that compares the major kid networks and the competition for viewers which talks about Blake’s call for submissions of videos, letters, and artwork on his show. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Blondewitch (talk • contribs) 22:25, January 21, 2008

  • Are those sources in the article? If you have those sources prior to creating the article, why have you not included them in the article? The burden of proof is on the creator of an article to establish notability. Without that notability, any article may be challenged for deletion, as this entire discussion shows. Just saying someone is notable is not proof, you need to provide sources. Now that you have, why not add them to the article. Yngvarr 10:14, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
  • Where should I put them? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.184.121.163 (talk) 14:56, 22 January 2008 (UTC)
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.