Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Blacks and Jews

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Citations to the New York Times, Chicago Sun-Times, PBS, and Sundance Film Festival pretty clearly show notability. --MCB (talk) 06:41, 19 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Blacks and Jews

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Delete NN film per WP:NF Mayalld (talk) 16:12, 11 January 2008 (UTC)

• Delete Nothing from the article to indicate notability of this documentary, that may or may not have been distributed. Mandsford (talk) 18:24, 11 January 2008 (UTC)
• Strong Keep A documentary film that was broadcast on PBS and was screened at the Sundance Film Festival seems to be a rather strong claim of notability, and is supported by reliable and verifiable sources. It took me minutes to locate dozens of sources (some of which have already been added to the article), which should have been found as part of the nomination process. This Google News Archive search using "blacks and jews" documentary PBS as search terms found no fewer than 77 sources, most of which directly reference this film. That the AfD was completed and submitted within eight minutes of the article's creation raises continuing concerns that the nominator refuses to abide by the terms of Wikipedia:Deletion policy, that requires legitimate efforts to research notability and to edit, improve or merge an article before the mad dash to deletion begins. Alansohn (talk) 07:22, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• Comment Thank you for your extensive precis of the "achievements" of this film. Might I suggest that you refer to WP:NF and explain which of the notability criteria it meets. Your sources prove that the film exists (which was never in dispute). They do not show notability. Once again, you have failed to assume good faith. Indeed, I might counter your accusation of a mad dash to deletion by noting that you seem to pop up whenever I submit an AfD to attack the nomination, and make unfounded accusations of refusal to abide by policy. If an article is about a NN subject, there is no way of improving it which might make the subject notable. Mayalld (talk) 19:06, 13 January 2008 (UTC)

• Take a gander at "A topic is presumed to be notable if it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject", and count up the number of independent sources addressing the article before you spout any further rationalizations for deletion. Was this another article where you couldn't find any sources? It's great to see that you're now waiting a whole eight minutes before deciding articles must be deleted. Alansohn (talk) 06:29, 15 January 2008 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.