Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Black Roses (The Rasmus album)

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The result was Result is Delete per WP:NOT, the keep opinions did not address the issues. While this is by a notable artist, this album is not yet officially released, no prejudice against recreation once the album is released.. _(1 == 2)^Until 13:50, 11 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Black Roses (The Rasmus album)

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Unreleased album (crystal ballism) with little or no media coverage. Fails WP:MUSIC#Albums and songs. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 21:37, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

• Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 21:40, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
• Speedy Delete for this being the 2nd Afd for this article, and per failing WP:MUSIC. ArcAngel (talk) 21:43, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Can you link the earlier AfD? I can't find it. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 22:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Reply Article was prodded by User:Neon white on November 23, 2007, reason given was "wikipedia is not a crystal ball, this is unconfirmed rumour and badly sourced". Prod removed by User:72.195.139.18 four days later. No reason was given for the removal. Article was prodded again by User:Hello Control today for the reason given in the AfD nomination above. Ironically, User:Neon white was the one to contest this second prod two hours later. This is the first time the article has been sent to AfD according to the article history and deletion logs (which are empty). Hersfold ^(t/a/c) 23:20, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Reply Here's what I thought was the first Afd - [1] ArcAngel (talk) 15:23, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
• Merge/Redirect to The Rasmus discography until seperate notability per WP:MUSIC is established. --brewcrewer (yada, yada) 22:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)
• Keep although the source is the bands website and this [2], i'm happy that this album will be released, therefore deleting seems pointless. --neonwhite user page talk 05:04, 4 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Being happy isn't really an argument for keeping it, even though that's probably not covered in WP:ATA. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 02:22, 5 March 2008 (UTC)
• Strong keep - meets WP:MUSIC as an album by a notable artist; The Rasmus. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 10:48, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
  • Comment Notability is not inherited. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 12:59, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
    • Please read Wikipedia:MUSIC#Albums, specifically the second sentence. The article has sources proving that it will be released, so deleting now will mean the article will be created in a few months anyway. Or, just keep it now. dihydrogen monoxide (H₂O) 22:24, 10 March 2008 (UTC)
      • Comment I see that the second sentence says "officially released albums may have sufficient notability". Two parts of that excerpt are important to note here: 1st, this album is not (yet) officially released (or even finished); 2nd, it says "may have sufficient notability", not "does". Without independent coverage notability isn't indicated. —Hello, Control ^{Hello, Tony} 23:36, 10 March 2008 (UTC)

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